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Author: allencole
Date: 2009-10-28 07:09
I see that the Nuvo Clarineo is now available in the US, and that it's actully the Lyons C clarinet. But I can't find an US internet presence for them, or any info (anywhere!) on spare parts or reeds. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Allen Cole
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-10-28 10:57
They use Eb clarinet reeds, and the only other info I can find is their website http://www.clarineo.co.uk/default.asp?gclid=CNTBgqzJ350CFQWTzAod0X_qOA
As far as replacement keys, in the FAQ section it only says:
"What if it goes wrong?
Conventional clarinets need expert (and, often, expensive) repair. The Clarineo has been designed with replaceable keys. Spares are reasonably priced and are available from your local music shop or from the page on this site headed ????"
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: lrooff
Date: 2009-10-28 14:47
Chris P wrote:
> Conventional clarinets need expert (and, often, expensive)
> repair. The Clarineo has been designed with replaceable keys.
Why would key replacement be an issue? The only time I've ever had to replace a key is on some of the antique clarinets I collect. Generally, the only replacements I've needed are corks and pads.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-10-28 15:01
That's a quote taken from their site - not my words.
It's much easier to replace a whole key than to replace the pads on these clarinets if the keys or pads get damaged. The pads are rubber and are self levelling (they're mounted in the key by a central pivot) and there are no key corks as the keys are all plastic.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-10-28 15:11
Boy, that sounds like real quality to me! ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
EDIT. After viewing the site, I guess it's a step up from toys and designed to get kids playing earlier on, so that makes sense.
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-10-28 15:40
Julian Bliss started on one of these.
I bought one when I was at college to play C clarinet parts on, and it did the job well enough - though the bendy keywork took some getting used to.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2009-10-28 16:01
-- "I see that the Nuvo Clarineo is now available in the US, and that it's actully the Lyons C clarinet." --
But why would they change the name? The Lyons C clarinet is known everywhere. 'Nuvo clarineo' sounds like another CSO!
Or is it another case of overpaid marketing executives having too many expressos and not actually talking to people who play the clarinet?
Steve
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Author: allencole
Date: 2009-10-28 18:08
The owner of my store told me that Lyons sold the business to these new folks. And these new folks have made some changes.
Originally, the Lyons unit used a regular Eb mpc, and was kept fully assembled in a cylindrical case--kind of like a sawed-off map case. Now the mouthpiece and bell are removable and stored in a more standard-looking case, about that size of an alto flute case.
They've also developed a kid-friendly mouthpiece setup. The mouthpiece has a slot on the table that corresponds to a tab on the underside of their plastic reeds, making alignment easier. (not terribly different from that mpc that the clickbarrel folks came up with) Rather than a cork tenon, it has two rubber o-rings to make the seal. (o-ring grease is included)
There's also a kid-friendly plastic ligature that's pre-shaped and which fastens with a quick-release lever, instead of using screws.
There are three plastic reeds in the case. Two softer ones are colored blue, and one harder one is black. I was able to get an okay sound out of the black plastic reed, but am going to take in my Eb mpc in hopes reproducing some of the results I've seen on YouTube.
Anyhow, my main concern is making sure that reeds and other parts are available in the US so that this thing would be practical to use with some younger kids.
Allen Cole
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-10-28 18:13
I used a Vandoren Eb mouthpiece with mine - no problem at all. This was not long after they were launched in the late '80s and I've still got it somewhere. The side Eb/Bb key was improved within a few years as it used to jump over the stopper on the early models, and I think the C#/G# key was redesigned.
On these ones, the LH levers have a beefier and more angled design than the early models. Shame they don't do them in black with white keys - though that can easily be done if you buy a set of white keys.
Now, when d'you reckon these http://www.vibratosax.com/ will hit the marketplace? I'd definitely like to try one!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2009-10-28 18:22)
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Author: allencole
Date: 2009-10-29 17:45
Just saw the banner for www.firstclarinet.com (Lyons C Clarinet) and clicked it. Looks like that link may no longer exist.
Also, I'm having trouble getting through on the www.vibratosax.com link, but I think the problem is with their site, no this one.
Allen Cole
Post Edited (2009-10-29 17:47)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2009-10-29 17:49
> Now, when d'you reckon these http://www.vibratosax.com/ will hit the
> marketplace? I'd definitely like to try one!
Mailed them about this - here's the answer:
Quote:
Our company will pre-launch Vibrato A1 around next month. We will launch only the small amounts, 60 of them, to test the product. They will be sold only in Thailand. If we're satisfied with the response, then the saxophone will be available soon.
Now we're still working on distributors. We'll notify you when the product is ready on sale.
--
Ben
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2009-10-29 19:02
JJAlbrecht wrote:
> Allen, that link has been dead for ages. :(
>
Graham paid in advance for the year but has never sent me an update (and mail to him seems to go into a bit bucket :( )
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-10-29 21:27
I got a Lyons when it came out. For me, it's barely playable -- a sort of super-toy. I wouldn't perform on it.
Julian Bliss may have gotten a benefit from it, but he's an amazing talent and could probably have played it in the cradle.
Ken Shaw
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