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 Octave jumps
Author: moolatte 
Date:   2009-08-13 02:52

I am having a bit of trouble with continuous octave jumps. I keep squeaking, and it sounds really bad. Also I keep getting a pipeish noise, I think cause my fingers are too slow or something. I've tried slowing it down, and tounging each note comes out beautifully.

I am sorry if my question is so vague ^^;

I'm talking about jumping from a note like low G to open G, then going back down to low A and jumping up to A with the A key, and so on. And it's a fast piece to be honest.

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 Re: Octave jumps
Author: mrn 
Date:   2009-08-13 03:28

You're talking about Rose Etude #8 (in e minor), measures 35-36, right?  :)

For the low G to open G and low A to throat A, I keep my right hand fingers down during the slur and change the right hand from the G to the A during the open G. Practice this slowly and gradually speed it up and that will make measure 35 a lot easier.

For the second half of measure 35 and measure 36, the thing that I think is tricky is that you have to alternately press and release the register key while holding your thumb on the thumb hole. That's very hard to do quickly. The "pipeish" noise you are describing (if it's what I think it is) is caused by the fact that your fingers on top of the instrument are changing fingerings faster than your thumb is pressing the register key--the result is that you get a brief low-register note before the high-register note comes out. I don't know how to fix this problem other than to practice slowly and gradually speed up--maybe somebody has an exercise or a teaching metaphor that might help with this. If so, I'm interested in hearing about it.

To eliminate the squeaking, you have to get used to switching between high resistance notes (like the low Gs and the high Bs) and low resistance notes (like open G). To do this, you have to keep your embouchure constant and play with good air support. (You also need to make sure you don't have any hidden leaks in your instrument, because that will mess you up, too.) High resistance notes take more air pressure to get the same amount of air flow, so in going from high resistance to low resistance (like low G to open G) you have to make sure you don't overblow the open G (which will cause a squeak). On the other hand, when you go across the break, you have the opposite problem--you have to put a little more energy into the low-register notes and carry that energy through across the break, because if you don't have enough air pressure when you hit the note(s) across the break, they won't speak properly.



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 Re: Octave jumps
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2009-08-13 12:27

Also, be certain that your thumb is reliably coming off the octave key. The older I get the more I realize just how much the thumb is asked to do.


...........Paul Aviles



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 Re: Octave jumps
Author: aero145 
Date:   2009-08-13 13:02

Imagine how much the thumb of old basson-players (basson = French bassoon) has to do. Quickly navigate between twelve keys. THAT is crazy! I am not old, and the nine keys of my bassoon is enough!

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 Re: Octave jumps
Author: pewd 
Date:   2009-08-13 13:50

and make sure your instrument is in good repair - a very small pad leak in the top joint can make large interval jumps almost impossible

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: Octave jumps
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2009-08-14 01:51

Assuming it's not the instrument then it may very likely be the way your voicing. It your tongue goes too high or you choke or voice to high when you skip up you might squeak, and then going down if you don't drop your voicing properly it will also cause you to squeak. The tongue and the throat can cause all kinds of problems if you don't voice properly. Check my website for some ideas on voicing on my clarinet articles page. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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