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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-03-02 22:06
I have a student who is a very fine player (All State and All Eastern) and was selected into an orchestra, playing the Beethoven 9th Symphony.
Although we have worked on C transposition, his skill is still not strong enough (or reliable enough) for an upcoming performance next weekend.
At this point, since our time is short, our options are to either write out the entire movement or have him borrow my C clarinet (which won't be happening ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif) )
Does anyone have a 1st clarinet Bb transposition of the 2nd movement, or would be kind enough to transpose it on a music software program and email it to me?
Note to teachers: it's never too early to work on transpositions with your advanced students.
...GBK
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2009-03-02 22:10
Why doesn't your student write out a part for himself? The tediousness of this enterprise would encourage him to improve his transposing skills for the future. Also, the copying will help him learn the movement in detail, as copying was a standard teaching device for composing etc in the old days.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-03-02 22:22
RodRubber wrote:
> Why doesn't your student write out a part for himself?
He doesn't know it yet, but that's the immediate plan, if a transposition is not found. ...GBK
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2009-03-03 00:12
Most orchestral players sight transpose this..if it is not an option then write it out as a project. A whole tone up is not so bad...
David Dow
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2009-03-03 01:01
Try contacting Kalmus, they may print a Bb part by now, they have them for several other pieces. It seems so often when our BSO gets a new set of parts for some of the classics it comes with an optional transposed part these days. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: graham
Date: 2009-03-03 06:56
There is a risk to his writing it out. He may get it wrong!
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Author: ogogli
Date: 2009-03-03 12:43
You can dowload it at:
http://everynote.com/orchestralparts.choose/0/2/47/1048.note
I think it costs US$ 2.95
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2009-03-04 17:20
What's the difference if you lend him your C-clarinet or letting him play from a transposed part? He doesn't learn how to transpose quicker in any case in this situation. Or are you afraid that he might break it?
There is nothing wrong about using the correct instrument. Actually, it's getting more and more common that informed conductors ask for C-clarinet when required. Take this as an opportunity for him to get used to the C-clarinet if you have a good instrument. He will have time to learn how to transpose later.
Alphie
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-03-04 19:57
Alphie wrote:
> What's the difference if you lend him your C-clarinet or
> letting him play from a transposed part? He doesn't learn how
> to transpose quicker in any case in this situation. Or are you
> afraid that he might break it?
I'm very protective and fussy with my concert instruments and make it a policy to not lend them out. A student or intermediate grade instrument? No problem...
I agree that learning the transposition is the ideal route for the student, but at this late date, his transposition skills are neither strong enough or reliable enough for a performance.
Writing out the part is certainly the preferred learning tool...GBK
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2009-03-05 06:53
GBK said: "I'm very protective and fussy with my concert instruments and make it a policy to not lend them out."
I have the deepest understanding, so am I. I thought you might have as a principle with your students that "either you learn how to transpose or you take the trouble to write out the part yourself."
Many composers asked for C-clarinet when it still was in common use. As the mechanics of the instrument developed, clarinet players started the habit of transposing C-clarinet parts only for practical reasons to not having to bring so many instruments on stage, or for financial reasons not having to buy an extra instrument. This "tradition" did not start for any musical reasons. Learning how to transpose is always good, but one has to remember that transposing is the exception, however common this "tradition" is, not to use the correct instrument.
Alphie
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