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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-01-19 22:08
Model "55"?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2009-01-19 22:22
Before I'd be ready to pronounce it a 55, I'd like to know what the marking is between the stars on the upper joint. The photos are too poorly focused to tell.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-01-19 22:25
I thought it was a BT, but the blurry figures don't look like BT.
It's got the singular throat A touch and arm instead of the two-piece one that came in before the CT, and no ramp on the RH ring key linkage.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2009-01-19 22:27)
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2009-01-19 22:54
Initially, the characters looked like "33" to me, rather than "55" but, now that I look at it again, I think the blurry figures in the last photo actually are "BT" with fairly long "tails" on the "cross" of the T (which would explain the vertical lines on the right side of the right-hand character) and a "foot" (horizontal line across the bottom) to the T. The case would be consistent with an instrument of that age, as well.
I guess maybe I've never seen a "55." From other threads in the past, I concluded that the "55" must be the unmarked professional model that was sometimes erroneously referred to as "Depose" because that word was the only marking other than the Selmer logo. I've never seen a Selmer clarinet actually marked with a "55" (which doesn't mean they don't exist).
Pending confirmation of the letters between the stars, I'd say it's a BT.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-01-19 23:09
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/download.html/1,1655/clarinet3.jpg
Now you mention it, it does look to be more like *BT* than *55*.
The "55" had the pre-CT style keywork (seperate throat A touch soldered onto the key arm and ramp on RH rings, and the trill guide was turned instead of bent sheet metal).
Notice the key for the case lock hasn't been lost!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2009-01-19 23:21)
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Author: susieray
Date: 2009-01-19 23:36
Jack I think you are right, now that I have my glasses on it does look more like BT. 
Sue
Post Edited (2009-01-19 23:36)
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2009-01-20 00:11
This is L-series Selmer BT with the serial number between L34XX and L52XX.
B.T.W. Selmer 55 does not have stars. If you find on with stars let me know.
Vytas Krass
Clarinet Repair
Professional clarinet technician
Custom clarinet mouthpiece maker
Former professional clarinet player
Post Edited (2009-01-20 00:14)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-01-20 01:34
HI friends, I'm a bit bothered by the ?appearance? of an adjusting screw on the G#, or don't I see clearly ? On a repeated look, pic #3 seems to show one !! The logo is much the same as on my 1956 CT [P series] and my 1932 RI [F B], but my 1929 A has a much diff logo [an oval] and initials HS, I'm told it was tuned by Henri himself, but it has the G# screw ! A serial # [GBK] should answer all ?'s, with referring to those sites where I've seen pics of the many Sel models and much info.. Luck, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: GBK
Date: 2009-01-20 01:57
I've now had an email from the person who supplied the photos and he says it is indeed a "BT" on the upper joint.
He thanks everyone who has helped in the identification.
BTW - He said that the clarinet was bought at a garage sale for 2 dollars ...GBK
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-01-20 12:48
"BTW - He said that the clarinet was bought at a garage sale for 2 dollars ...GBK"
£$%^&*()!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
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Author: William
Date: 2009-01-20 14:01
Wow--$2 Selmer BT? Reminds me of the Monday morning a student of mine, just beginning 7th grade, brought in a tenor saxophone for me to look over. His parents had purchased it over the weekend at a garage sale in somewhere in nothern Wisconsin for $75.00 and wanted to know if it was OK to use for the school band. I assured him it was adequate--a near-mint condition Selmer Mark VI.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2009-01-20 19:21
I picked up a Conn 16 [in a wreath, UJ and bell], a 17/6 plastic for $34, thinking to give it to a student or teacher. With a fair bit of tweaking, matching mp to barrel to UJ bores, its a dern good playing horn !! It has no ser #, or other identification, BUT, it is poly cyl/ conical from 15.02 mm top of UJ to 14.8+ at bot of UJ. Any info/thots will be appreciated. May start a new thread re: it later. TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: old999
Date: 2011-06-15 10:25
I have a 55 (mostly - the barrel is Buffet). Below the barrel, it says DEPOSE. Below that is the emblem HENRI SELMER. Below that is FRANCE. Below that is 55 - no mistake, clear as day. No serial number.
As best as I can figure out, the 55 was a one-year-only (1939) to commemorate 55 years since the Selmer factory opened in 1885. The person who gave it to me said he had been told it was worthless, or at least not worth fixing up. I'll check with my tech. I haven't tried to play it, but I'm sure it hasn't been used in many years.
-- Al
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Author: Bassie
Date: 2011-06-15 11:23
old999 -
They 'gave' it to you? Please let us know how it goes!
I love this thread. We all dream of getting a $2 Selmer.
Heh, there was a whole TV drama based around this, in the UK back in the 80's. Lovejoy, starring Ian McShane (now in the Pirates movie, of course, did him no harm!)
Nearest I've got to a 'free' clarinet was the day I joined the top half of a broken Thibouville to the bottom half of a broken Martin Freres. Plays just fine!
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2011-06-15 17:25
I got a Bundy bass for free last year from our tuba player (he plays some low single reeds, especially tenor sax if I remember correctly). It plays fairly well mechanically speaking (tends to play sharp and needs some work). Needs some work, but it's ok as it for now.
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: Pastor Rob
Date: 2011-06-16 01:06
Last year I was given four and a half clarinets and two flutes. Included were two and a half plastic Selmer Bundys a wooden Bundy and a plastic Buscher. I had the two flutes repaired (both Selmer Bundys) one was given to a fifth grader and my wife kept the other. She likes it better than her Armstrong. The plastic clarinets were also given away to students, except the one missing an upper joint. The wooden Bundy I still have and will pass it on soon I suspect. It plays pretty good too. Of course these were all student level instruments but it was still fun fixing them up and giving them away. I was also given a violin and a trombone. The violin is being used a loaner in our church orchestra and no one seems too interested taking up the trombone yet.
Pastor Rob Oetman
Leblanc LL (today)
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