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 Re: Is this an acceptable teaching method?
Author: NorbertTheParrot 
Date:   2008-12-18 20:04

Tony, I did find it interesting, and I did think about it for more than a second or two. (Though only a few minutes, as the timings on our posts prove.)

I did not write down all my thoughts.

Surely the analogies are:

1) Composing is analogous to creative writing.

2) Improvisation is analogous to speech or (perhaps more closely) to extempore public speaking.

3) Playing from written music is analogous to reading aloud.

In your first post you referred to children babbling. In doing so, what they are learning is ordinary speech, which is a rather weak analogy to improvisation.

In your second post, however, you change the subject to "reproducing an existing sentence". But reading aloud is not an activity learned by babbling. It is an activity we are taught in school.

You claim "... in reproducing an existing sentence, most people are able."

But this simply untrue. You can prove this to yourself very very easily.

Listen to a professional musician sight-reading. Unless the music is especially difficult, he will play it pretty well perfectly.

Now listen to a professional broadcaster reading a news bulletin. This is ordinary, everyday language. But he will make mistakes. I am listening to the 9 pm news on BBC Radio 4 right now...... wait for it .... less than one minute into the broadcast, the newsreader said, as close as I could catch it: "He will make his intentions for the closing of the detenten the detention centre..."

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