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 Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Joseph LeBlanc 
Date:   2008-12-12 18:16
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I've had a planer and shaper on order for quite some time now, with hopes they would be able to improve my blank making and save me time. There is very little information on these tools anywhere, so I thought that I would post my thoughts and some pics.

His planer with first jig cut(more on the first jig cut later) costs 389 Canadian(price can vary depending on what black plane you would like included). The design is pretty simple, it uses a track and a standard block plane. The construction is solid steel and brass. The rails are precision ground and the sliding motion is extremely smooth and secure. I opted to get this with a Veritas Block plane. James will custom make the planer to go with the block plane of your choice. Veritas is about the highest quality you can get. It is much easier to adjust then a typical stanley plane and the settings stay where you put them. It also has adjustment screws near the mouth, making it easier to center the blade(critical for flat reeds). The O2 steel blade will also hold an edge longer.

There are a few nice design features in this planer. First, the holding mechanism for the piece of cane is spring operated, no need to screw and unscrew each reed into place, you simply push in the screw to open the mouth. This is a big time saver actually and is much easier on the fingers than the Dilutis planer. Secondly, James has build in an easy and accurate way to control blank thickness. Under the brass plate that holds the reed is another plate that is on a slant. By moving this lower plate forward and back you can adjust the overall thickness. On my planer I have a range of about 2.5mm to 4mm in thickness. There are lines etched in the brass to help you keep track of the setting you like. It takes a few minutes to set the height but once you find it you are set. The planer comes with mounting screws. It needs to either be mounted to a work desk or clamped down.

The first jig cut makes the initial cut into the bark. It's located on the planer below the main cane holder. The reed is held in place by sliding the silver metal bar up. It basically just holds the reed at an angle so when you cut with the block plane it creates a smooth first cut on the vamp of the of reed. The first jig cut works well, it's much faster and safer than cutting the bark by hand.

Overall this planer is a big improvement in my workflow. I've cut my planing time in way down(now about two minutes including jig cut) and I get a more consistent result. I was hoping it would be able to produce perfectly flat reeds with almost no need for sanding however this is not the case. They come off a little flatter than the Dilutis and the thickness is more consistent. So they still need some finishing work with glass and sandpaper but generally not as much.

I'd still love to get my hands on the Reed's N Stuff gouger(planer) and see how that performs compared to the James but I just can't justify the cost!

James' shapers are built to your custom dimensions and they cost $160 Canadian. His concept is slightly different from what I've seen before. It has to be used with the included wooden brace. You set brace on your table and then put the shaper on the brace. One side of the reed will be sticking up and you cut it to shape with a chisel(both hands on the chisel, you don't hold the shaper or brace). I've always used a chisel even with my Dilutis shaper, if you keep it sharp it's safer than a razor blade and gets closer with less strokes. The shaper has an adjustment screw on one side that acts as a stopper for the reed. This saves time and it made me realize how sloppy I was before as I just lined it up with a tape guide(not a deal breaker, but it's nice to have exactly uniform results) . The steel he uses is heat tempered and you can really tell the difference. The chisel slides smoothly and the steel basically does not scratch at all. The tightening screws are smooth though like any shaper I've tried with two screws, it's a little bit cumbersome to use because you have to tighten each side a little at a time or the metal will bind. I would have preferred an handle over the wooden brace method, but I'm getting used to it. The overall build quality is great and addition of the adjustment screw is a nice touch.

I've cut my time down at each step. I have less finishing sanding to do when I'm done and the dimensions are slightly more consistent now. My time from tube to finished reed is now about 9 minutes. If you are considering ordering the tools feel free to email me, and I can get you James' contact info. A word of warning for those thinking about ordering though, I waited almost a year for these. All of his tools are made to order. He will give you an estimated finish date but be prepared for delays. My first order was placed in Dec 07 then was lost...so I reordered in May, paid in June, was expecting them in August and just got them a few weeks ago(late Nov!). I feel they were well worth it, but count on waiting for them.

-Joe



Post Edited (2008-12-12 18:18)

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: crnichols 
Date:   2008-12-12 20:35

Thanks for the information Joe! I might investigate this. The blanks I've made on the Dilutis planer are fine, but this certainly sounds quicker!

Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Arnoldstang 
Date:   2008-12-13 06:43

I have a Greg James reed making machine. I believe he made lots of bassoon machines. This one is adapted from that. I can make reeds for clarinet and all saxes. It unfortunately has fallen into disuse as I have gone on to dabbling in other woodwindy things for years.

Freelance woodwind performer

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Joseph LeBlanc 
Date:   2008-12-13 13:57

Arnold,

I spoke to Greg James a few times about his reed machine. The design sounded very interesting and well thought out. I'd be interested to see some pictures of the machine. Would you care to post some here?

-Joe

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Arnoldstang 
Date:   2008-12-13 15:33

computer/camera challenged but I'll try.

Freelance woodwind performer

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Joseph LeBlanc 
Date:   2008-12-14 14:27

Arnoldstang wrote:

> computer/camera challenged but I'll try.
>

Ha! If it's easier feel free to email me the pics and I'll post em on here.

Many thanks,

Joe

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Chris22311 
Date:   2008-12-22 08:03

Nice info

Chris

Post Edited (2008-12-22 10:02)

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Mr_Blue 
Date:   2020-08-15 19:16

Do any of you guys know where I could purchase most of the tools for reed making?

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: jeig 
Date:   2020-08-15 22:34

I have used tools in excellent condition. I will email you Mr. Blue

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: Feng 
Date:   2022-09-20 05:28

I would like to order Greg James Planer and Greg James Shaper
Can you help me? thank you

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 Re: Greg James Reed Making Tools
Author: manuel78 
Date:   2022-09-20 18:22

If you find it useful, I know you can order blanks for vamping from Argendonax, I think they are the same as Gonzalez. Their site is
www . argendonaxsa . com

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