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Author: donald
Date: 2005-07-22 08:42
despite being warned by a colleague not to play a Muncy Plastic barrel in the orchestra "because plastic doesn't resonate like wood can" i just used a Muncy "MB 66S" synthetic barrel in this afternoons Philharmonia rehearsal. My usual B flat barrel is a Buffet-Moennig 66mm and i found the intonation slightly improved on the Muncy, and the tone just a little more "concentrated" than usual (which today seemed to match the sound of the Assoc Principal who is playing 1st for this gig).
A 32 bar 2nd clarinet solo (yay!!!) went quite well, thank you very much, with no one telling me that my sound wasn't up to scratch (they may have thought this, i supose).
Given the very low price that Muncy is charging for these synthetic barrels, i'd say that they represent very good value for money, and would certainly work well on clarinets with an "R13ish" bore for students wanting to upgrade without forking out $200.
donald
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2005-07-22 11:00
(Disclaimer - I am the maker of the Power Barrel but not custom hardwood barrels) From my own experimentation, - the taper of the barrel, the absolute mass, and the sonic reflective surface ( the distribution of mass giving the outward surface) have a lot more to do with the modification of sound by the barrel than the material that the barrel is made of. Most synthetic barrels are made from dense plastic, like Delrin, which approaches the density and sound transmission properties of dense hardwoods. Multiple density material barrels have different acoustic properties that only become more complex to predict. There are of course many other variables that interact to produce your own personal sound and therefore experimentation by each player is necessary.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2005-07-22 13:23
Hi,
I have had very good luck using Robert Scott Delrin barrels (the Aa2 specifically which is intended for use with the R13) with other makes of clarinet (Selmer and LeBlanc). My primary quest has usually been to lower the wide 12th rather than change the focus of the tone and the timbre in any way.
My selection was based on an email recommendation with Scott several years ago. While I have no measured evidence, I have never gotten any negative comments except my standmate saying "man, does that look weird." But she was an alarmist anyway .
HRL
Post Edited (2005-07-22 13:24)
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Author: jmsa
Date: 2005-07-22 19:49
I have tried many barrels with my R13 but like Hank I always return to my Robert Scott Aa2 barrel which allows my sound to reach full potential.
jmsa
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-07-22 23:03
"which allows my sound to reach full potential."
But how do you know you are at full potential?
Bob Draznik
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Author: susieray
Date: 2005-07-23 02:38
I thought the same thing, Joseph...how do you know you are at full potential?
Sue ![[happy]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley12.gif)
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Author: ClarinetRepublican
Date: 2005-07-24 01:28
It's rather interesting that this post has come up because Muncy Music came to the brevard music center. I was hell bent on getting backun barrels but when I tried muncy's barrels I was floored and I wasn't the only one. Another clarinetist also bought the muncy's barrels as well.
Everyone should give them a shot. Not only where they the best that day, i paid 100 dollars instead of 400 dollars on barrels.
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Author: Kel
Date: 2005-08-03 16:00
I just received one. It seems to be a good barrel, but be aware the mouthpiece socket is a little large. My Hite and Morgan mouthpieces have too small a cork to fit properly. Vandorens that I have fit OK.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2005-08-03 17:20
Coat the socket with shellac sealant, let it dry. More coating if needed.
(see the thread on bells)
{Dizzyclaimer.....I, too, sell barrels}
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Kel
Date: 2005-08-03 19:32
It would be simpler if they would make it to the correct size. Or at least advertise it as a do-it-yourself barrel kit.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2005-08-04 13:50
I have a Pyne barrel and also one of Doc's power barrels, but for my serious orchestral stuff I still prefer the wood barrels. I like Chadash barrels and also have a new styled Fobes wooden barrel (without the metal). I use the power barrel for outdoor stuff.
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Author: pplateau
Date: 2008-10-22 23:13
I have several wood barrels for my R-13 but the Muncy Synthetic Diamonds work just fine for me; I have both a 66 mm and a 68 .
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Author: Geirskogul
Date: 2008-10-23 04:39
I had to recork my mouthpiece to get it to fit, the old cork was too "compressed," even though the mouthpiece was brand new. A new cork, some light almond oil, and a greasing later, though, and it fit nice and tight. I can't decide whether I like the Muncy or the Ridenour better, though. The "bulged" shape of the Ridenour is pleasing on my wood clarinet, and the "narrow" Muncy is pleasing on my Yamaha. Hrmm...
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Author: BobD
Date: 2008-10-23 13:41
I recently acquired one of Tom Ridenour's barrels and like it very much.
Bob Draznik
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Author: TCrane
Date: 2008-10-23 14:10
I also recently got a Ridenour barrel as an upgrade to my ridenour 147. It made such a difference that I'm actually satisfied for the moment and don't feel the desire to tweak anything. Now the only thing that will improve my sound is practice.
tc
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2008-10-23 22:21
Same again! I also got one of the Ridenour barrels. It made my higher notes sound sound slightly darker and in more control. The response was also slightly improved too.
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Author: OldClarinetGuy
Date: 2008-10-24 19:12
I ordered two in different lengths. The mouthpiece sockets in both were too large for both my Fobes and Ridenour mouthpieces.
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2008-10-26 13:48
I have a couple of Chadash barrels and a Gigliotti but recently bought three Muncy Diamonds - one for my A and two for my Bb and I love them. Focused, darker, controlled. A great product for a great price, IMO.
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Author: Pappy
Date: 2008-10-26 14:38
>I ordered two in different lengths. The mouthpiece sockets in both were >too large for both my Fobes and Ridenour mouthpieces.
I take a bit of bandaging tape from the pharmacy, cut it to the right size and place it on the cork lf the mouth piece and it seems to do the trick well.
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Author: cxgreen48
Date: 2008-10-26 15:16
Btw, are we talking about the Muncy Diamond Synthetic or the regular Muncy Synthetic barrel?
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Author: OldClarinetGuy
Date: 2008-10-26 23:45
It might be better if they just fit rather than to have to use bandaging tape. I have a number of other barrels of different lengths and manufacturers that receive the mouthpieces without an issue.
These are not the diamond barrels, and I have a non-synthetic Muncy barrel that I use on a R-13 that also works with my mouthpieces.
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