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 accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: musica 
Date:   2008-08-30 19:51

Mvt 2..... The accents above the dotted quarters. Does one observe these
literally or attempt to match the strings which have the same part and are
holding them as true dotted quarters? Thanks

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: jeeves 
Date:   2008-08-30 20:20

I'm pretty much a n00b compared to everyone here, but this post leaves me w/ a question. Do accents affect note length? It thought they didn't.

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-08-30 20:25

A staccato or tenuto over a note certainly changes its length (the amount of time the note is sounding, not the distance from start-of-note to next start-of-note.)

--
Ben

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: jeeves 
Date:   2008-08-30 20:36

Yeah, that's what I thought. That's why this question confuses me. Maybe I'm interpreting this question incorrectly, but don't accents only deal w/ dynamics?

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-08-30 20:54

Hmm. I think I know what you're after. How long should the silence between eg two 'normal' quarters be? How long between two tenuto quarters? Or staccatoed?

As I have learned it, an accent defines the way a note is played, be it volume, tempo, shape, whatever.

I usually (and automatically) fall silent when I don't hear the others any more, unless it's kind of solo or transition between phrases. "Matching the others" (with similar figures) seems to be a good idea, although I admit I have no idea about that specific piece.

--
Ben

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: musica 
Date:   2008-08-30 22:43

In the case of the Saint-Saens piece the accent is a "rooftop" accent which
to me implies more of a stopped sound i.e. (daht) as opposed to a "sideways"
accent "dah" but the note is indicated as a dotted quarter so just my question is
does silence between notes fill in the missing beats?

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-08-30 22:52

The rooftop is just an accent (duh), ie you emphasise that note (eg when it is off the main beat), but don't do anything to its length. Like you play it louder in the first third but keep it at nominal level for the designated length. (the remaining two thirds might go under in the noise, but you keep the supporting note till the bitter end). That's how I learned it: ^ ~= <>

What does your musical self say? I mean, scores can be misleading, or incomplete or inaccurate, so what's your gut feeling? (I'd be comfortable to sustain the note as long as the strings are keeping it, but no longer; blending in would be my gut feeling)

--
Ben

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 Re: accent quiestion on Saint-Saens #3
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2008-08-31 03:20

Generally, I find the conductor is the best person to sort out this sort of question.

Best regards,

jnk

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