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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-07 19:43
I'm a new player, having only just starting playing clarinet in my 40s.
I'm into jazz mainly, but I'm open to any influences.
I've got plenty of Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw etc to listen to, but I want to find some new stuff to get my teeth into. Does anyone have any recommendations for contemporary players/CDs I can look out for, for some new inspiration? Jazz or classical, I don't mind which.
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Author: J. J.
Date: 2008-08-07 19:54
Evan Ziporyn
Andrew Firth
For classical, Alessandro Carbonare or Hakan Rosengren
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2008-08-07 19:57
Don Byron
Ivo Papazov (Bulgarian wedding music...really out-there stuff)
Gianluigi Trovesi
There are more I know but I'm blanking on 'em!
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-07 20:09
Great thanks, keep them coming.
I've already ordered "Ivey Divey" by Don Byron.
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Author: Allegremente
Date: 2008-08-07 21:26
Jazz:
Eddie Daniels (the reigning king of jazz clarinet)
Our very own Ben Redwine, whose mouthpieces and playing I love
Classical:
Jon Manasse
Jon Manasse
Oh, and there's this other fellow by the name of Jon Manasse, too.
Other:
Martin Frost (a wacky modern virtuoso)
Michele Gingras (ethnic flavored classical playing, I suppose)
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Author: mrn
Date: 2008-08-07 22:03
For jazz:
Eddie Daniels (also a good classical player)
Buddy DeFranco (not as contemporary, but modern in the sense of modern jazz/bebop--e.g., Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, etc.)
For classical:
Sabine Meyer (especially her recordings of Weber)
Martin Frost (his recordings of the Brahms Sonatas are especially good)
Robert Marcellus (older recordings, but still very much an archetypal player--it's hard to follow many of the discussions on this board if you've never heard Marcellus's playing, for instance)
For REAL classical (as in playing on 18th/19th-century-style instruments):
Antony Pay (who frequently reads/posts on this board, by the way)
For a little of everything (as well as "playing outside the box"--his term, if my memory is good):
Richard Stoltzman (especially his Copland Clarinet Concerto recording)
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-08-08 11:11
The English players you should be listening to are
Michael Collins
Richard Hosford
Andrew Marriner
Robert Plane
Tony Pay (period instruments)
Colin Lawson (period instruments)
Tim Lines
I do find it quite amazing that none of the contributors here include any of our fine English players. These guys can stand up against any of the ones mentioned above.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2008-08-08 11:26
I can recommend the CD "This Is Not A Clarinet" by Evan Ziporyn that J.J. mentioned. It's a solo CD (except a few overdubs) and especially the bass clarinet pieces are good.
For jazz/modern/improvised music but not so mainstream as the players mentioned you can look for Michel Portal and Louis Scalvis from France (the latter also has a couple of CDs with two more great French clarinetists Jacques Di Donato and Armand Angster). Eric Dolphy for more American style jazz (bass clarinet).
If you want specific recommendations and even some short samples you can email me (click on my username to find the address). There are many things I would never have heard of if no one played them to me which is why I offer the same to you.
Nitai
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2008-08-08 13:53
Giora Feidman, who played clarinet with the Israel Philharmonic for eighteen years, is known as the 'King of Klezmer'. He is equally proficient playing jazz, classical, or eastern european music. I highly recommend his CD called "Gershwin & the Klezmer".
Mike Blinn
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2008-08-08 18:49
Excellent recommendations here, but I'm also in favor of listening to anything and everything available. A good way to find out what we love and why is to find out what we don't love and figure out for ourselves what's the difference.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: redwine
Date: 2008-08-08 20:41
Hello Allegremente,
Thanks for your very kind words!
I would recommend checking out instrumentalists other than clarinetists. Although I do listen to a lot of great clarinetists, I also am influenced by many others, including, but not limited to:
Louis Armstrong, Carl Fontana, Art Pepper (his clarinetting is awesome), Paul Desmond, Stan Getz, anything Duke Ellington, Wynton Marsalis, Oscar Peterson---just some of the greats that I enjoy and try to emulate.
I would say that Alessandro Carbonare is my favorite classical clarinetist on the scene today.
You might go broke buying recordings of everyone. If I were you, I'd check all the names out on YouTube before deciding what you like and what you want to sound like. Good luck!
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-08 20:57
Well I'm an electric bass player in a rock/funk band and have been for years, so I'm open to many different genres of music, Marcus Miller being one of my favourite bass players, and of course a bass clarinet player too. I'm also a jazz fan of course, and Wynton Marsalis is a particular favourite already, along with Chet Baker, Miles Davis and many more. Never new Art Pepper played Clarinet though.
Having just started out with Clarinet, I'm keen to hear as much Clarinet as possible, so all of the above is great, thanks all very much.
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-08 21:03
Ben, I just ordered your CD. Looking forward to it very much.
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Author: mrn
Date: 2008-08-08 22:48
cigleris wrote:
> I do find it quite amazing that none of the contributors here include any of
> our fine English players. These guys can stand up against any of the
> ones mentioned above.
That's not entirely true...I recommended Tony Pay!
I'm not as familiar with the other English players you mentioned, with the exception of Michael Collins, whom I should have listed because I like his playing a great deal.
Another recording I like that was done by an English player is Alan Hacker's recording of the Finzi Concerto. I haven't heard any of his other recordings, though.
I agree with you, though, that English players are seriously underrated, especially here in the states, where we seem to have a bizarre obsession with national schools of playing and teacher lineages. Even though I'm an American, I've actually been called a "German school" player before simply because the people calling me that knew that my teacher's teacher studied in Vienna for a while. I honestly don't know how somebody who plays on French instruments with French reeds and who studied out of French etude and method books can be called "German school," but, hey, I like Brahms, Weber, and Hindemith, so I'll take it as a compliment any day. Just don't call me English, 'cuz them's fightin' words. ;-) (tongue planted firmly in cheek)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2008-08-08 23:33
russjm wrote:
> Well I'm an electric bass player in a rock/funk band and have
> been for years, so I'm open to many different genres of music,
> Marcus Miller being one of my favourite bass players, and of
> course a bass clarinet player too. I'm also a jazz fan of
> course, and Wynton Marsalis is a particular favourite already,
> along with Chet Baker, Miles Davis and many more. Never new Art
> Pepper played Clarinet though.
>
What, no Charlie Mingus or Ron Carter???? 
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-09 07:09
Ha ha, it's funny, I haven't listened to a lot of upright bass, don't know why, I'd love to try it.
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Author: jwiseman114
Date: 2008-08-09 14:57
I looked through the thread and though I see a lot of my favs, I did not see Ken Peplowski's name.
My classical favorite is Sabine Meyer or Harold Wright. I'm hoping to see more Morales solo recordings soon.
I agree with others in that I believe that the jazz voice has more to do with a player's melodic/harmonic concept than it does the instrument they play on. It is to a certain extent, compositional music, and so it is more like preferring a composer to another when picking your preferences. I listen to all kinds of music for different moods and depending on what I'm trying to accomplish at any given time as a musician. I listen to all kinds of jazz styles as well but when I am looking for genius and what I call 'pure improvisation', I usually go to Keith Jarrett.
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Author: giuliano
Date: 2008-08-09 17:18
Jazz: Pee Wee Russell and Jimmy Giuffre
Classical: Thea King---Thea King---Thea King
Giuliano Forghieri
Nubilaria Clarinet Ensemble, arranger, clarinet, Eb clarinet
Accademia Musica Insieme, founder, arranger, clarinet
www.musicengraving.it
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Author: MichaelR
Date: 2008-08-09 19:22
Sean Osborn, who is faculty at the University of Washington, formerly with the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra. He has a website at http://www.osbornmusic.com/
I'm emailing Sean to see if this is temporary or permanent and will update when I know something.
In the meantime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLB2vGiNtxI
edited to correct my mush brain mistake in reporting his domain registration had lapsed
--
Michael of Portland, OR
Be Appropriate and Follow Your Curiosity
Post Edited (2008-08-09 20:39)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2008-08-09 19:35
MichaelR wrote:
> He used to
> have a website http://www.osbornmusic.com/ but his domain
> registration seems to have lapsed.
His domain registration is just fine until October, but his website isn't coming up ...
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Author: Clariblack
Date: 2008-08-11 02:59
Check out a group called "The Clarinet Trio". I downloaded a couple of their albums on Amazon.com mp3 downloads. The band's website is http://www.gebhard-ullmann.com/clari.htm - the main composer/leader is Gebhard Ullmann, the group based in Germany. The music is a combination of free jazz, 20th century composition, and... something else. It's haunting, lyrical and infectious.
I only saw one mention of Buddy DeFranco above, which I find puzzling. Buddy is absolutely amazing in tone and dexterity. I love his treatment of ballads as well. IMHO, Buddy's "Mr. Clarinet" from 1953 should be considered essential listening for clarinetists.
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-11 07:49
Thanks again folks, Buddy DeFranco is already in da house! Much more stuff ordered too, lots of listening to do, can't wait.
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Author: xarkon
Date: 2008-08-12 17:12
If you like jazz, check out Paquito D'Rivera. Surprised his name has not yet appeared in the thread. Also, Stephane Chausse opened for Paquito at ClarinetFest and was outstanding - did some great work on bass clarinet as well. Some links:
Paquito D'Rivera:
http://www.paquitodrivera.com/
Stephane Chausse:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=154811942
Also check out Eric Dolphy, if you have not already. Plays bass clarinet on several tunes.
+1 on recommendations for Tony Pay, Sabine Meyer, Jon Manassee, Martin Frost. Add Sharon Kam as well, check here:
http://www.sharonkam.com/
Dave
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-12 19:42
I'm absolutely over the moon with the Buddy DeFranco CDs, exactly what I was after, superb. I love be bop in particular, and this stuff is just brilliant.
Artie Shaw and Benny Goodman of course we know about, great stuff too.
It's going to take time to get through the other suggestions.
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Author: mrn
Date: 2008-08-12 20:42
If you have iTunes, there is a neat clarinet ensemble--Vienna Clarinet Connection--that plays jazz as well as classical. You might like them.
Richard Stoltzman's Danza Latina is good if you like latin jazz.
Actually, come to think of it, I put together an "iMix" of tunes on iTunes a while back--mostly classical, but some jazz and klezmer, too. It's sort of a sampling of stuff out of what I had in my iTunes library at the time. It's called "Clarinet Tracks." You might find some more stuff you like there.
7 people voted on it and gave it a "5 star" rating, so I must have picked out some decent stuff. Or at least somebody thinks so.
If you have the iTunes software, you should be able to access it from this link:
Clarinet Tracks
If you don't, then you can download the iTunes software from Apple for free (and you don't have to have an iPod to use it, either). You only pay for the tracks you want to buy. (Just in case anyone is wondering, I don't have any affiliation with Apple other than the fact that I'm a customer, and as far as I can tell, I don't receive any kind of reward or compensation for folks' downloading tracks from my iMix--it's just for fun.)
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Author: russjm
Date: 2008-08-18 18:36
Ben, your CD arrived today, and it's brilliant. I'd highly recommend it to everybody. Beautiful, smooth, warm tone, fantastic.
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Author: redwine
Date: 2008-08-18 19:09
Hello Russjm,
Thank you very much, that's very kind of you!
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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