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 String Ligature
Author: dim 
Date:   2008-07-31 12:49

Anyone has experienced with string ligature??

How is that works if compared with metal or leather ligature??

How is the sound qualities??

What string ligature do u used??

Is the string ligature can tightly use on French mouthpiece???

Thank you

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Firebird 
Date:   2008-07-31 12:55

It depends on what you are looking for, basically, IMHO string ligatures tend to give a more even response, and a less harsh sound.

You can use the original German string ligature, which requires some tying, or the Pyne string ligature.

Chan

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2008-07-31 12:57

Vandoren Klassic is also very good or just a normal piece of string

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Phil Pedler 
Date:   2008-07-31 14:48

When I was in college (and I graduated in 1971), I collected every new ligature that came out. There were about 4-5 innovations at that time. I noticed that the advertisements would say, “It's as good as string.” So around my Junior year, I thought, “So why not use string?” and I have been ever since.

Before I used the woven nylon string that is used for chalk lines. Now I use a thicker string, that has more elasticity to it, and a texture like thick yarn. I can't tell you where to get it, as I got mine in Indonesia.

My string is 30.5 inches long, and I normally wind 7-8 times around, the last time around I make the loop that holds it on. I have almost zero problems with my ligature coming off. It doesn't take much longer to apply than a standard ligature, and it comes off faster than a standard ligature.

On my French-style Hite mouthpieces, I have scratched some grooves on the back side, just to add a little extra insurance that the string won't slip upward. But I only started doing that about 10 years ago. If you get the right kind of string, it won't slip. Cotton string slips.

The main thing one must watch is that the left over string is not long enough to get caught in the top side key or the register key!

I agree with Firebird. With string, one doesn't strangle the reed, as you can if you turn down the screws on a standard ligature. When you have the reed tied on, you can still move the reed up and down and sideways. If the reed is thicker on one side, string will hold it evenly.

But so will a Rovner ligature. And even though I still use string, I don't see that much difference between string and a Rovner ligature that is sensibly applied.

Phil Pedler
clarinetpages.wetpaint.com

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2008-07-31 16:06

I use the Pyne string ligature and have for several years now. It is by far the best I've ever used. For years I used the BG Super Revelation and found that it actually inhibited my abilities to play Klezmer and other styles that require "bending" of the notes. I've had the same Pyne lig. for the whole time and it is still as good as new. It hasn't loosened, as some had suggested it might over time.

I play in an orchestra once a year with a girl from Netherlands and she hand winds her string lig. on her German mouthpiece every morning for rehearsal. It takes quite a bit of time and if you need an adjustment during playing it is not as handy as the Pyne that is ready to go and just slips on the mouthpiece.

I play a French style mouthpiece on my Buffet R-13.

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2008-07-31 21:59

A Velcro ligature is similar in many respects, and easier to manipulate. I make my own, for about 25 cents each. They work particularly well with plastic reeds.

richard smith

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Iceland clarinet 
Date:   2008-07-31 22:28

I saw a video on youtube showing how to put a stringe on to the reed and mouthpiece and it took like over a minute. It takes me less than 5 seconds to change reeds with the Bois ligature and it gives me very even and free sound.

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2008-08-01 03:01

I love string ligatures. Both premade (like the vandoren or pyne) and just a shoelace. Problem for ME is the reed is a little more prone to moving and slipping one way or the other. Which, me being an army musican and doing my fair share of "horns up/horns down" during lots of marching gigs I need that reed to be firm!

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Claire Annette 
Date:   2008-08-02 00:18

Iceland Clarinet, do you have a link to the video you mentioned?

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2008-08-02 02:42

It certainly does take a little bit to put the string on, but one minute? I can sacrifice that for a good sound and comfort in playing. I used to use the BOIS ligature and that's pretty easy to use.

A good compromise (mentioned above) would be a velcro ligature. You wrap it a little snug around the mouthpiece without the reed, then take it off and put the reed against the mouthpiece. Then you slip the velcro loop over the reed and mouthpiece and it should be MUCH more snug.

This (IMO) gives you pretty darned close representation of how a string lig would sound, while at the same time makes it REAL easy to put on and off (just like the BOIS lig).

Alexi - who keeps a piece of velcro in his gig bag for those emergencies where someone's ligature might break or otherwise fail.

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: String Ligature
Author: Alfred 
Date:   2008-08-02 06:55

I like the pyne ones, even though I've never owned one. Used one, however. Call me cheap, but the only thing I don't like is how cheap they are to produce, but so expensive to buy.



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 Re: String Ligature
Author: hrvanbeek 
Date:   2008-08-02 12:45

I've been happily using a string ligature since 1998 (2mm unwaxed cotton string). I prefer the sound and response it gives compared to other ligatures and haven't had any problems with it coming loose even though I use a mouthpiece without grooves. I suppose the key is getting it tied at just the right snugness. Once you get the hang of tying it, it can be done pretty quickly. I'm certain I can tie mine in less than a minute.  ;)




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 Re: String Ligature
Author: cosine 
Date:   2008-08-03 04:45

"Alexi - who keeps a piece of velcro in his gig bag for those emergencies where someone's ligature might break or otherwise fail."


I thought I was the only one who did that!

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