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 C and D clarinets
Author: srattle 
Date:   2008-05-05 20:23

Hello everyone, a couple questions.

Has anyone tried the Ridenour Lyrique C clarinet here? How does this compare to a good wooden instrument? Does it tune? Does it provide a good amount of resistance?


Second, what do you think about buying a D clarinet? Is it worthwhile? I'm considering now buying an Eb instrument, and wondering whether I should consider getting a set of Eb and D.

Does anyone have experience with Rossi Soprano clarinets? Do they also do a D clarinet?

Thanks for the info
Sacha

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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: Sylvain 
Date:   2008-05-05 20:47

I own a Forte "C" clarinet and am quite happy with it. It is the cheapest I could find and I have used it in several operas and will be doing Mahler 1st this month.
http://www.forteclarinet.com/horns/c.htm
Besides the obvious advantage of not having to transpose on Bb, using a C brings a different character that I believed is called for. Strauss insists that the C parts in Rosenkavalier must be played on a C instrument.

I have not tried the Lyrique, but his lyrique clarinets have been well received overall. Whether rubber will sound different than wood is still undecided, but I would not worry about this as much as the evenness of pitch and response of the instrument. I think you can trust Tom Ridenour's acoustic design to be good, but I would check carefully that the keys/pads/springs are of quality.

I have seen and played Rossi clarinets (Bb and A). They are simply beautiful instruments, I have nothing negative to say about them.

--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>

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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: Ralph Katz 
Date:   2008-05-05 23:28

There are other posts here and on the Ethnic Clarinet board about C instruments.

I have a Stephen Fox C, and am very happy with it. It will take a while for him to make you one, though.

Tom Puwalski suggested buying a Buffet E11C and having Morrie Backun "work his mojo" on it. This will get you a fine instrument for less money.

If all you want a D instrument for is to play is Strauss, Peter Hadcock's Eb book has a complete part for Till Eulenspiegel written out for Eb, with alternate fingerings listed.

If on the other hand, you want a D instrument and can afford it, and are looking for encouragement, then go for it. But check the intonation first.



Post Edited (2008-05-05 23:29)

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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: Alphie 
Date:   2008-05-05 23:50

If you want to buy your own D-clarinet you really have to ask yourself what you’re going to use it for. In my job as responsible for Eb- and D-clarinets in a philharmonic orchestra I use it once maybe twice a year, either in Till Eugenspiegel, Rite of spring, some Mahler symphony (I’ve forgotten which one) or a very small number of other pieces that I can’t think of now. If you ever play with a large number orchestra who perform these pieces they most certainly have a D-clarinet for you to use. At least in Germany where I think you are. Otherwise I can’t see the point buying one unless you have a contract to record the Molter concertos.

Alphie

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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: Brenda 2017
Date:   2008-05-06 01:47

Yes, Rossi makes D clarinets. He's seen playing one on YouTube, only the description is in Spanish and it's called "clarinete en Re" (Do, Re Mi...). You can hear the difference in sound because of its being a smaller instrument in comparison to the Bb or A. He'd probably make you one in F or G if you wanted as long as you paid him for the effort!



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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: LonDear 
Date:   2008-05-06 13:18

I have owned a Lyrique C for over a year. It has been wonderful and it gets a lot of use. I played nothing but wood clarinets for 40+ years, so it was difficult for me to make the decision, but I have no regrets. I still have some very nice wood Bbs, but my main Bb is now also a Lyrique, as is my A. I've pestered Tom a couple of times to make an Eb to replace my very nice wood Eb.

As far as a D goes, the jazz side of me really wants one, but it isn't the jazz side that makes the money. I've never encountered a printed D part that I couldn't get through on Eb and/or C horns. I think I would go for a G or F before a D (personally).

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 Re: C and D clarinets
Author: bmcgar 2017
Date:   2008-05-06 19:56

I own three Rossis, a Bb, an A, and a C that I got from Luis about six months ago. If you would like information about any of them, please contact me off-list. (I don't want to start another "which clarinet is best" thread.)

BTW, Luis wrote to me a few weeks back, and told me that Philip Cuper, after playing his instrument since August of last year, recommended that the Paris Opera orchestra buy a pair of his C clarinets.

Cheers.

B.

[Edit] P.S. I owned one of Tom's Arioso Cs for about a year, and was very happy with it.



Post Edited (2008-05-06 23:34)

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