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Author: fargus
Date: 2008-04-05 23:32
Hello
I'm new to the board!
Wondering if anyone knows of any second-hand woodwind places in Budapest? Or anywhere to buy a Tarogato?
Many thanks
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2008-04-06 01:35
I can't say I know much about the Tarogato, but a very fine clarinetist on the music faculty at New York University does. She is Esther Lamneck, and she performs on the Tarogato. I don't know her, but the son of a friend is majoring in clarinet performance at NYU and is a student of hers.
Her e-mail address is available through the university Web site or her home page. You can google her, by name.
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2008-04-06 07:23
I think you will find that the real stronghold of the tarogato is not Hungary but Romania. The characteristic Hungarian instrument, to be found everywhere in Budapest, is the cimbalom. Much of Romania was historically part of Hungary; the history is too complicated to recount here, but you should be aware that the Hungarians can be very sensitive about it.
In Budapest, I think this might be the place to start: http://www.tarogato.hu/english/index_elemei/page0001.htm.
Another possibility:
http://www.afolk.hu/cms/
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Author: htoyryla
Date: 2008-05-07 17:04
I just found me a tarogato from Budapest. from this shop http://www.andand-fuvos.hu/ . I was on a very short business trip, but found out that there was just enough spare time to visit the shop (a very tiny place in an inner courtyard with a repair shop upstairs). They did not accept credit cards but fortunately there was a bank across the corner.
The tarogato is made by Gregus Pal ( http://kezmuves.baja.hu/GregusPal/index.htm ) . I have no previous experience from tarogatos. Some notes in the low register seem to be difficult to get, there may be a leak but the upper joint would appear to be pretty airtight. It may be an embouchure problem.
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Author: NorbertTheParrot
Date: 2008-05-07 17:20
htoyryla - I hope you realise that by posting this link you have let members of this board know that there is such a thing as a BASS tarogato. Those who must have everything (you know who you are) will be rushing out to buy one.
Unfortunately the site is mostly in Hungarian. There is one page in English, where we are told that the tarogato is "a traditional Hungarian double reed instrument" (actually, it was - but the modern ones are single-reed). There is one page in German, where we are told, more bizarrely, that it is "einer besonderen ungarischen Schnabelflöte" - that is to say a recorder!
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Author: Paul Globus
Date: 2008-05-07 17:38
Try the Rose clarinet store in Budapest. They have a Website: http://www.rose.hu/html/index.html. They should be able to help you.
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Author: htoyryla
Date: 2008-05-07 18:09
Two years ago, I was in contact with the tarogato builders associated with the Rose shop, but understood that they make tarogatos by order only, and as the prices started at 2000 EUR, I decided to wait. Their sortiment, however, seems excellent, they have models for both traditional tarogato fingering and something very close to the Boehm system.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2008-05-07 19:15
Charlie Ponte used to have a couple of tarogatos (Stowassers as I recall) in his store, and like everybody else, I took a blow on them.
The tarogato has a conical bore and overblows at the octave. It's thus a sort of wooden soprano saxophone. Like all saxophones, the low notes break to the second octave if you use a clarinet embouchure. Play it like a sax and you'll be fine.
Look for CDs by Csaba Nagy. He makes a truly gorgeous sound.
Ken Shaw
Post Edited (2008-05-07 21:26)
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Author: htoyryla
Date: 2008-05-07 20:24
"Like all saxophones, the low notes break to the second octave if you use a clarinet embouchure."
I found it to more difficult than a saxophone. Don't know yet for sure, but the left hand index finger ring might be a bit too high, requiring more care to cover the hole well enough.
BTW, I think you mean Stowasser.
Post Edited (2008-05-07 20:25)
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2008-05-07 20:42
The Stowassers are the Cadillacs of tarogatos. Wish I had me one! Well, wish I had any tarogato....
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Author: larryb
Date: 2008-05-07 21:02
Pontes! Must of been one of those dusty things in the window, next to the old sousaphone?
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2008-05-07 21:31
htoyryla - Thanks. I made the correction.
larryb - Charlie kept them on pegs in a niche, about halfway back on the right. There was an old guy, who may have been employed or just hung around, who played it very well. This was of course about 35 years ago.
Ken Shaw
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