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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2008-03-06 09:49
I've started playing on a Vandoren M30 mouthpiece and am quite happy with the results. I was just wondering what reeds others used on this mouthpiece? Right now I'm using V12 number 3.5
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-03-06 14:13
Try the 56s.....they are great with longer facing mouthpieces!
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-06 18:00
There is no one reed for all players with the same mouthpiece. I'd suggest you try several brands and strengths. I've learned a long time ago, what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for someone else. ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-03-06 19:53
Dear Ed,
I agree with your premise 100%. It is just that some lengths of vamps are longer than others. These tend to work better on the longer facings.
There was a recent post about someone only having luck with the White Master cut reeds for his embouchure/mouthpiece setup. Because these reeds are intended for mouthpieces of the smaller German dimensions, the reeds are very narrow and very short. I would bet that there is NO ONE who successfully uses White Master reeds on the "M" series mouthpieces M30, M13, M15..............well I wouldn't bet much - too risky!!
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2008-03-06 20:56
Ed wrote: "what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for someone else"
I agree Ed. But let's say something works for 95 people out of 100- then it might just work for me too? If there is a general trend regarding reeds which work with this mouthpiece then it could save me quite a bit of time and money trying a whole bunch of reeds that might not work on it.
I hope your post didn't discourage other M30 players from replying to my question...
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2008-03-06 22:11
I got good results with an M30 with a 3.5 Vandoren V12 shaved down, or a vandoren V12 3.0 sized reed. I preferred the 3.0 on the M30. So if you don't think your current reeds cut it, try shaving them down a little bit or see if you can snag (as in ask round for a few) some 3.0 reeds to try.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2008-03-07 04:20
Hi again, I certainly hope that my former post does not discourage others from making their recommendations but I bet you get a whole bunch of different ones. One of my students uses this mouthpiece and he uses Grand Concert Reserve #4 sometimes Vandoren V12 #4 and has even used Gonzalez at times. In the new clarinet journal Jon Manasse is advertised as using the Vandoren M30 and uses Vandoren V12 and Traditional reeds. No number is indicated. I really think you will have to try several brands and find what works best for you. I hope you get plenty of suggestions of which brands and number to use. Good luck, ESP
www.peabody.jhu.edu/457
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2008-03-07 06:02
Thanks Ed. Looks like you're already right concerning the numerous recommendations!
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Author: S. Friedland
Date: 2008-03-08 01:07
I used the White Masters quite successfully for about 6-8 years, playing many works of chamber music. They were too narrow and had to be carefully fixed to my M13 mouthpiece, however I felt the cane was excellent, and the duration was really quite wonderful. It was a reed which you didn't change much once you got it correctly placed on the mouthpiece. I have fond memories of them, just moved away from the source in Montreal.
SF
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2008-03-08 15:56
Dear SF,
I just lost that bet.
Hey, have you unsuccessfully tried the long vamp reeds? I believe the basic theory here is that you want the heart to start opposing the point where the reed begins to make contact with the moutpiece.
The opposite mismatch would be a long vamp on a short lay mouthpiece resulting in a sound without much substance; difficulty controlling the sound.
..........Paul Aviles
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Author: S. Friedland
Date: 2008-03-08 20:20
Dear Paul:
I don't know how , but do know why. I just thought I would try simply anything to get a good response, which I knew was in that mouthpiece, and I happened to buy a box of WM, and it was like bingo, I was there. Afterward,I found out about placement.
After that I tried a German mouthpiece on a concert with the Brahms Sonatas and something else. F minor was excellent, Bb, started sharp and stayed that way until the end, when my teeth started to hurt it was so sharp.(I keep the tape locked in an explosive safe, and listen to it for humility, privately.)
Post Edited (2008-03-08 20:21)
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2008-03-08 20:21
I would guess that ideally (like Paul said) you would want the heart to start opposing the reed where the curve of the mouthpiece rails starts to flatten out. And that is also (I would think) where you'd want your bottom lip to contact the reed allowing anything above that spot to vibrate creating the sound. I guess that could be a reason why some people have better luck with good sounding reeds of one type than another. For example, I've NEVER had good luck with La Voz reeds. But maybe it's because the scrape of the reed is so short that I've never played a mouthpiece with a short enough lay to allow it work to it's best. Maybe that's the case? Just doing some thinking out loud.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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