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 Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: C2thew 
Date:   2008-02-15 17:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyQdcCa_qEU&feature=related

Features the Lyons C clarinet, however there are many other C clarinets out there including

I wish i could start a poll on this thread, but i'm not sure this forum is able to?

lyrique
amati
forte -, +
patricola +
buffet
selmer


and that's all i could think of off the top of my head. anyone play a C clarinet professionally? Not that i'm looking, just that the video really brought out the musician's talent on a beginner instrument. Some jazz was pretty cool too

Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. they are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which was already but too easy to arrive as railroads lead to Boston to New York
-Walden; Henry Thoreau

Post Edited (2008-02-16 06:35)

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: bill28099 
Date:   2008-02-15 18:20

I have an Amati C purchased about 3 years ago. It's a nice little horn but flat above high C. I keep meaning to send it to Graham Golden of Graham's Music in Albuquerque and have the tone holes undercut but have never gotten around to it. I still think it was a bargain given the $525 I paid for it and the quality is first class. Last I heard the Forte was made by Amati.

A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2008-02-15 18:23

I played an Amati C in "Rigoletto" recently. It was very fine.

I thought the ad for the Lyons C was silly. The little girl who couldn't get the low notes needed to try a little bit harder to keep her fingers on the holes. It can be difficult, but it's just one of the things you learn how to do as a clarinet player. Any 4th grader with normal-sized hands can do it--and the two kids shown were normal.

And there will be no band arrangements for C clarinet. It's fine for pros to play on unusual instruments, but little kids? If they try to play the Bb parts, the parts will have to be transposed, and then you're getting into unfriendly key signature territory, at least for beginner clarinetists.

As for the pros, a good professional will make a student horn sound good all the time.

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2008-02-15 21:13

I have a Lyons C, which I regret buying -- it's a flimsy toy. The only possible use is for a child with tiny hands, but the mechanism is so floppy and imprecise that it would interfere with a beginner's progress.

I've read that Julian Bliss started on one, but I think he went further only because of his great talent. He occasionally posts here, so perhaps he could give us his take.

I was lucky enough to find a Buffet from 1929 in new condition, and it's the best clarinet I own.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Chalumeau Joe 
Date:   2008-02-15 22:05

I have a Forte, which I'm not happy with. Its intonation is pretty terrible...wide swings of >20 cents from note to note. My tech looked at it and said it leaked like a sieve.

If I had it to do all over again, I'd probably buy a Buffet.

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: susieray 
Date:   2008-02-15 22:33


I have an excellent Arioso, hand tuned/set up by Tom Ridenour which I purchased from him in December 2003. It is stamped "Made in USA" so I believe it may be one of the first Ariosos made in C. I also own a great little Leblanc LL in C. I like them both, but they are very different. In my opinion the Arioso has a more singing, flutelike tone than the LL but that may just be my own impression. I haven't really decided which one is my favorite. I do prefer the feel of the keywork on the LL.

BTW I have play tested the Forte and I'd buy one in a second if I didn't already own two C clarinets.

Sue

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Steve Epstein 
Date:   2008-02-16 05:20

I'll vote for my Patricola CL-7 grenadilla I bought about eight years ago, a nice horn.

Steve Epstein

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2008-02-16 20:20

I have a 251 (ie plastic) Amati and can't complain. Once you're used to its idiosyncrasies (as with every clarinet, methinks) it's a fine player.

--
Ben

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Kalakos 
Date:   2008-02-16 20:49

I guess you're asking about Boehm system clarinets in C when you asked about poeple's experiences with them. I don't play Boehm, never have, but I have played C Albert system clarinets professionally since about 1964.
The best ones so far have been the Buffets. I have 4 of them in C right now. And contrary to what some people say, although the tone of the C is different from that of a Bb, they are very sweet and also in tune if the instrument is a good one. I think everyone should at least try a C clarinet some time. They are fun!!!!
Good luck.
John

Kalakos
Kalakos Music
http://www.TAdelphia.com



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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Gandalfe 
Date:   2008-02-17 01:11

Suzy has a contemporary Leblanc/Noblet C clarinet that she likes. The intonation is excellent and the keyworks are fine. I don't think we paid much for it new last year.

Jim and Suzy

Pacifica Big Band
Seattle, Washington

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 Re: Comparing C Clarinets?
Author: Robert Small 
Date:   2008-02-17 02:40

I have a Leblanc Esprit model. It has a very good tone, a little brighter than my Bb horns, but still pleasant enough. Intonation is very good. It's very free-blowing with an easy and quick response. Keywork and action are fast and smooth. Made from grenadilla wood with silver plated keys. Sold for under 2K new. Just a great little horn. So of course Leblanc dropped it from their line.

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