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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2007-10-20 20:35
Instrument 5178 on page 507 of the Shackleton catalog is described as having "... a long tailed throat Ab key that enables the Continental fingering as well as the British."
This style of Ab key is also used on my Rossis, but I never thought that the elongated key design was used for any other purpose than to accommodate unusual LH positions.
Would someone enlighten me as to what the Continental and British fingerings of Ab are? (I assume that one of those is the standard LH T-Ab key 0-0-0 fingering.)
Danke.
B.
Post Edited (2007-10-20 20:51)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2007-10-20 22:48
The elongated throat G#/Ab touch allows it to be opened with LH finger 2 as well as finger 1.
It's mostly seen on simple systems, though some Boehms had it too - see Anthony Bains 'Woodwind Instruments and their History' for a photo of clarinets where there's an Orsi full Boehm with an elongated throat G# touch.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2007-10-20 22:58
bmcgar wrote:
> Would someone enlighten me as to what the Continental and British
> fingerings of Ab are?
The difference is that with the longer key, you can use your left hand second finger instead of your left hand index finger to press the key down.
Now, if you want to make this difference significant in any way, then of course you can. (You could even set up a 'technique war' -- like the war about whether you 'should' use RH trill keys to play F# -- see the archives for Marcellus on this.)
But please, if you do want to do this -- don't tell me about it.
Tony
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Author: srattle
Date: 2007-10-20 23:24
Why would anyone need to trill with the second key with a full Böhm?
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2007-10-21 03:20
Don't worry, Tony.
Having been a victim of the Marcellus Wars (and the Blow Out Wars, and the Ligature Wars, and the Soaking Reeds War, and so forth), I won't contribute further on this subject.
If it goes further, it's out of my hands. (Or "out of my finger"?)
B.
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Author: donald
Date: 2007-10-21 05:26
i suppose a faster G# to A trill would be possible with this longer key as you could use 2nd finger for G# and trill with the 1st finger.
not that i've ever noticed an urgent need for this... i'm just trying to imagine why someone could possbly want it.
dn
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2007-10-21 13:22
-- "The difference is the accent" --
I guess you're right. Someone with a strong Parisian accent would probably play differently to someone from Louisiana! ;-)
Re. the Ligature wars, did we ever decide how long the shoelace should be?
Steve
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2007-10-21 14:23
It seems that the long Ab key might be a good idea. 2 finges for 2 keys seems easier than 1 finger for 2 keys.
Something to put on my 'key making' list and try out.
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