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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-04-09 16:27
In the U S Weekend [in Sunday's paper] is an article re: the MAAS silver "treatment", with testimonials [sort-of], a new ?patented? silver polish which is said to last. Its available via a mail-in, a bit pricey? Does anyone know of it and it's use on our silver-plated keys? Omar, do you know of its "special?" composition and value to us BBoarders? TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-09 16:44
Against what exactly should a silver polish protect? Against oxydiation? Against physical wear? Both at the same time? Does it still have the touch of silver then?
The only durable silver protection is either a bank safe or Rhodium plating over silver. Every other thing requires more or less frequent intervention.
But don't we all love just to sit there, breathe upon the keys and polish them with a corner of our shirt? Peek through the bore, press down a ring and listen to the ever so faint smack of the pad leaving its tonehole bedplace? (The advertisers would suggest a beer or a rare whisky on this occasion)
Don't take these moments away from us, dear scientists. Have mercy on us!
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Ben
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-04-09 18:20
AH, Ben, you do play it so well, sorta-like a "devil's-advocate". I guess you missed my skepticism, which I tend to apply to "things new and different, and difficult to find out about" , which is why I asked for Dr. L O H's consultation. When I have a bit of time, I'll make a patent [and published-application] search for this magical composition. TKS to any/all "contributors". OK, GBK?, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2007-04-09 18:29
Don, I didn't miss the skepticism. I just banged on that pole some more, for good measure. (I don't need no stinkin' silver polish, I want four more pinkies!)
Yet I subtract you a karma point for flamebaiting. ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
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Ben
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Author: BobD
Date: 2007-04-10 13:35
I have a tube of MAAS metal polish that I use for all metals....and discolored hard rubber.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-04-10 13:43
TKS, Bob, should I assume that you are happy with it's use? I have a couple of horns with Ag plated keys, where longer-term tarnish protection would be good. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2007-04-10 14:15
(Disclaimer - I sell an anti-tarnish product)
Don, I have not tried this product but several of the "old line" silver polishes have what they call a tarnish inhibitor in the polish. This for the most part is a silicone compound which forms a film over the metal and protects it to some extent from interaction with sulfur compounds in the air. The protection is fleeting and also gives a slippery feel to the surface.
Tarnish is of course the interaction of the silver metal with sulfur to form the black silver sulfide compound. Removal by abrasion - most silver polishes and silver polishing cloths are mild abrasives which will remove some of the silver plating that has formed the silver sulfide. Over time the plating will be removed to the acceptor metal below. Plating metals follow the electromotive scale in descending order.
IMO the best approach is to remove the sulfur compounds in the air around the stored instrument. Usually this is done with a "scrubber" compound such as activated charcoal as found in minute amounts in the 3M strips (60 lb paper with a coating of activated charcoal) or a more sophisticated chemical cocktail encapsulated in little beads (used commercially and in museums), or a sacrificial silver containing cloth such as used in the bags used to store silverware. The electrolytic cleaning technique using an aluminum plate redeposits silver from the sulfide but not in the same matrix as the plating technique and this redeposited silver is more easily removed by any abrasion.
L. Omar Henderson
www.doctorsprod.com
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2007-04-10 15:04
Many Thanx, Omar, the scholarly [sp?] discussion I was hoping for. I was just intrigued by the published article, wondering if it were something new, I will look for any recent patents. I do have "slippery" keys on a horn, don't like it, so hope to avoid any ?more silicone [?polymers?]. Again, TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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