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 sub harmonics
Author: pevvey 
Date:   2007-03-11 18:40

Im not sure if anyone has already posted on this topic, but does anyone know of anything about sub harmonics for the clarinet. Are they even possible?
Thanks
Will

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: skygardener 
Date:   2007-03-13 01:18

what exactly do you mean?
are you talking about playing lower than the fundemental? I have never heard of any scientific possibility of that.

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: Alexis 
Date:   2007-03-13 06:56

I've only heard of them for string instruments.

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: Bassie 
Date:   2007-03-13 07:40

I once saw a guy do it on trombone - played a whole octave below the fundamental. Something about reinforcing the travelling pressure pulse every two trips round the tube. Don't know if that'd be possible on clarinet.

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2007-03-13 12:34

That trick won't work on a clarinet, because the clarinet already functions as a stopped pipe. That's pipe organists' terminology. On an organ, a stopped pipe plays an octave or a 12th below the natural pitch of an open (flue) pipe of the same length. The trombonist's gimmick probably involves inserting something into the trombone, up near the mouthpiece, that acts like the clarinet mouthpiece and turns his open flue tubing into a stopped pipe, thus dropping the pitch down an octave.

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: BoothbyA 
Date:   2021-03-29 18:43

I know I'm 14 years late, but if you know how to growl, you actually can do subharmonics on the clarinet by singing the perfect fifth above your fundamental note. For example, if you play Bb clarinet and play the lowest note (D3), you hum the fifth (A3) and keep it in tune to have a resultant note an octave below the fundamental (D2). I have not figured out a way to go lower in the subharmonic series, but in theory, if you could Lalah Hathaway into the clarinet and sing both a perfect 5th and 4th at the same time, you could go an octave and 5th below the fundamental (D3+A3=D2, D3+A3+G3=D2+G1). It is very hard to do this kind of growl using a head resonance with the sung note, so if you're a baritone like me, you'll only be able to use this in the lowest areas of the clarinet register.

TLDR; Growl in tune, perfect fifth ;)



Post Edited (2021-03-29 18:48)

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2021-03-29 23:03

There are some multiphonics bassoons can do to produce the effect of notes that sound lower than their lowest Bb - I'm sure there are some that can be found on clarinet which could be fun.

Former oboe finisher
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1998 - 2010

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: Arnoldstang 
Date:   2021-03-30 00:09

Of course these are “pedal” notes on brass instruments. Haven’t seen or heard this on woodwinds

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 Re: sub harmonics
Author: BoothbyA 
Date:   2021-03-30 00:42

I'm pretty sure the polyphonic technique bassoons use for the subharmonic series is similar if not the same as the growl I described, although I could be wrong.

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