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Author: Clariphant in Bb
Date: 2007-03-10 01:15
I just got a Fobes Cicero 14 to replace my John Pierce (big difference, I know) on my R13, but, unlike the John Pierce, my Fobes is much too expensive to buy a second one for marching band. I had to make drastic embouchure changes over the past week to be able to switch to this new mouthpiece, and I'm wondering if it will cause embouchure problems if I use the John Pierce for marching band and the Fobes for symphonic band, orchestra, etc. Will it? If yes, can anyone reccomend a mouthpiece similar to the Fobes but with a $100 or less price point? Would a 5RV or 5RV lyre be similar? Maybe an 11*6? As for the dimensions, the Fobes has a quite short facing with a medium tip opening (16mm and 1.08 mm, though the tip opening feels somewhat larger...). I generally use GC Evolution #3s on it. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Edit: Now that I see the facing chart at his website, he claims that the 4L (same tip as Cicero, but longer facing) is very similar to a B45 Lyre. I trialed a 4L along with the Cicero 14, and they were quite similar. I have a B45 Lyre that I never really liked, but maybe I'll give it a try...
Post Edited (2007-03-10 01:30)
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2007-03-10 02:14
What I recommend is what I did (although, I play a grabner)...buy Fobes' cheap mouthpiece (costs about $25). It's a great, durable, plastic mouthpiece.
EDIT: This may not work; however, because now that I reread your entire post you play a much more open mouthpiece. It's still worth a try though!
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
Post Edited (2007-03-10 02:15)
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Author: Clariphant in Bb
Date: 2007-03-11 02:43
Well, I tried using the B45 Lyre today, and I found it to be much more difficult to switch to it from my Fobes than switching to my John Pierce was. I might just use the JP for marching band. It's is loud, bright, etc. (good for marching band). I think I've figured out the emouchure changes that need to happen between them, and, as long as I am sure about them, adjusting shouldn't be that hard. They seem to use the same reed strength, so that's one thing I don't have to worry about at least.
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2007-03-11 04:33
I wouldn't think it'd mess up your embouchure too much. My advice is to use both. Use the cheaper one for your marching band practice (which I'm sure is pretty close to every day) and play on the other one when you practice away from marching band.
I figure if woodwind doublers can constantly switch between, among others, flute, clarinet, bass clarinet, and various types of saxes with ease without their embouchure getting messed up beyond playing ability, there's probably not too much danger of messing up your embouchure from switching between two mouthpieces.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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