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 Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Caco185 
Date:   2007-01-18 03:12

I went to play the tuning note today for an ensemble here, and I was 40 cents sharp. This is WAY out of the ordinary. Can anyone explain this? I'm freaking out. Could it be a mechanical problem? I have a recital on Tuesday. Grr!

Dale Huggard
Clarinet Performance Major, Michigan
Buffet R-13 - Silver plated
Genussa Excellente
Spriggs Floating Rail Ligature
Vandoren V12 #4

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2007-01-18 03:27

Something stuck inside your clarinet somewhere, a bit of swab, maybe? What tuning note were you using, by the way?

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: EEBaum 
Date:   2007-01-18 04:00

40 cents sharp in relation to what?

-Alex
www.mostlydifferent.com

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2007-01-18 12:41

Hello Dale,

You should check the calibration of your tuner before pulling your hair out. A student of mine was playing around with his and told me that a change of 1 kHz essentially caused a 5 cent shift.

If you're in Michigan and your clarinet is 40 cents sharp with this whether going on...I'd be worried that someone was trying to cook the lot of you with space heaters.

....and come to think about it...most notes 40+ sharp begin to register as the next note up...

James Tobin

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2007-01-18 13:01

You're not by any chance using a Yamaha tuner?

The calibration buttons on these can be knocked very easily sending them to any pitch, and I've seen people trying to tune up to 452Hz! When I told them to set the calibration to 440 when they use it they asked 'Why?'!

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2007-01-18 13:54

Also, check the note name, you may be INCREDIBLY flat.



..................Paul Aviles



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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2007-01-18 14:04

If the instrument plays in tune with itself -- i.e., uniformly 40 cents high -- then your tuner is almost certainly out of calibration, particularly if you're in tune with the ensemble.

If only the tuning note (presumably concert A or Bb) is high, then it's a problem with the instrument. Check for loose screws that might be leting a pad leak badly, and for pad seating.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: William 
Date:   2007-01-18 15:27

Tuning note on your "A" clarinet?? Maybe you got your lower joints (A & Bb) mixed up. Otherwise, a newer--and perhaps more resilient--reed may raise your general pitch level that much. Also the inadvertant use of a shorter barrell could be the gremlin here. And, of course, the Michigan "cooler" climate......but being from Wisconsin on the other side of the Lake, I usually experiance a general lowering of my clarinet pitch levels during winter and have shorter barrels for accommodation. It's strange that your clarinet would suddenly leap upward by 40 cents. When you finally discover what caused this to happen, I for one would like to know.

BTW, does "H" (as he was known here at UW-Madison) still conduct the wind ensemble? Assumming, of course, you mean't the "Michigan" at Ann Arbor..........

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 Re: Intonation Problems. Help!
Author: Caco185 
Date:   2007-01-19 00:30

It was concert Bb on my Bb clarinet. I am assuming it is the clarinet. When I adjust the tuning note to correct pitch, it throws everything else way off. I'm chalking it up to a mechanical issue. It will be checked tomorrow.. Keep the ideas coming though.

H Bob is now at USC conducting their wind ensemble. No longer at U of M. I did play under him this summer in New York City in Carnegie Hall with the National Wind Ensemble though. :-) Phenomenal conductor.

The top group, Symphony Band at U of M in conducted by Michael Haithcock now.

Dale Huggard
Clarinet Performance Major, Michigan
Buffet R-13 - Silver plated
Genussa Excellente
Spriggs Floating Rail Ligature
Vandoren V12 #4

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