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Author: Dan
Date: 2007-01-10 15:25
A clarinet I purchase off e-bay arrived with a second mouthpiece, Rico Royal M5.
I did a quick on-line search but did not find any info on this model.
Would someone send some info on this mouthpiece?
Thanks
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2007-01-10 15:44
Very poorly designed and more of a menace than a help.
David Dow
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Author: Dan
Date: 2007-01-10 22:20
I thought the difficulty I had using it was due to something I was doing incorrectly.
Thanks for the info.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-01-10 22:24
Will, it could STILL be something you're doing........... ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
But first, get a decent mouthpiece and eliminate at least one known bad element!
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Author: Dan
Date: 2007-01-10 22:50
I've a couple other mouthpieces which work fine. Well, fine for me. I been playing for one year and three months. Not counting the days I've gone on vacation and my wife would not let me take my clarinet.
For fun I purchase clarinets, rebuild them, and then sell them at my cost. One had this mouthpiece which I found difficult and "airy" to play.
That's the reason for the Rico M5 inquiry.
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2007-01-10 23:27
i disagree thats its a bad mpc. not for beginers or ligit music for shure but a great mpc for big band and any playing situation where you need to be heard. this is sax mpc technology applied to a clarinet desighn. the only high baffel clarinet mpc i have seen.
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-01-11 02:45
Sorry, Dan, gotta disagree with you. I bought two of the things, and both were awful for ANY kind of music (and I play big band too). I spent a lot of time refacing one of them to try to make something useful out of it, and what I ended up with was a barely playable mouthpiece. The second one, factory stock, IS unplayable. Maybe you got a good one and I got two bad ones? Sax mouthpiece "technology" (eh??) doesn't really apply to clarinets, any more than 'classical contrabassoon reed technology" applies to saxophones.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2007-01-11 02:51
Ah, but the fond memories of my Rico 5*. Short, open lay. Amost anyone coule play 4-1/2 Rico reeds on it, and it looked soo cool with that white patch on the beak.
These days' I can't bear it.
Bob Phillips
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2007-01-11 21:42
dave- there does seem to be good ones and bad ones. the first i got was great so i got a second one -hardly played at all in the lower reg. i played clarinet in a rock setting (yes its possible) and the rico was just the ticket. great for dixie work too. once in the big band i had the director shush me for overpowering the vocalist and i was unmiked. if you need power and projection -this mpc deliveres.
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Author: martind
Date: 2007-01-12 19:13
Dan, your inquiry brought about some interesting comments both positive and negative. Yes, I recently received the Rico 5 mtpc and the Vandoren 5JB jazz mtpc from WW-BW on a trial basis. I also was looking for a suitable mtpc for my big band performance. After trying the Rico and the Vandoren with various reed combinations lead me to selecting the Vandoren. The tone, response and intonation were the deciding factors.
Best regards,
Martin
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2007-01-12 22:53
i agree the vandoreen is a better mpc. i have one also . i played in a really loud modern big band and so i really needed the extra projection of the rico. it worked for me anyway
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2007-01-12 23:58
Attention Jazz/Show Doublers,
On tenor sax I use a Rico Royal B5 for all wind ensemble work and an M5 for shows and some jazz jobs (a Dukoff D6 and a D7 are the metal choices); classical playing is still on Selmer C* or an E (and has been for over 50 years).
The B Rico Royals have a sound very similar for a Meyer M6 or M7 but at 1/6 the price. Granted, these MPs give you a lot of power due to the internal construction but a mature sax player has several colors and projection styles available.
HRL
PS Send me any Rico Royal MPs you are planning to pitch. I'll be glad to reimburse the postage and will make a small donation to a charity in your name.
Post Edited (2007-01-13 01:24)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2007-01-13 20:41
Dr. Hank,
Not to correct you or anything (I would never deign to do so!) but I believe Super20Dan was initially referring to the Rico clarinet (not sax) mouthpiece. I agree with you that their sax mouthpieces are OK, it's the clarinet version which I think (controversially, as usual) is doo-doo.
Cheers,
Your humble* disciple,
DS
*I wish!
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Author: Wes
Date: 2007-01-14 07:06
A while back, I refaced a Rico Ebolin alto sax mouthpiece which I bought on Ebay for $20. It has a very unique and wonderful sound. I gave it to a fine professional player who sounded so great on it. Later, he gave a public recital where he used it to play one of the Bach flute sonatas on it and played some other fine classical saxophone pieces. They all don't respond like that but the old Ebolin plastic seems to have it's own sound.
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Author: donald
Date: 2007-01-14 08:53
if i need to make my sound "big" and/or edgy... or to project more... i don't need a Rico mouthpiece to achieve this.
my experience with these as a teacher is that students will in every case without exception sound better once this moutpiece has been thrown in the rubbish bin and replaced with just about anything. The times i have played on one, it was impossible to take it seriously. If you really want a high baffle clarinet mouthpiece then find anything playable and stick putty/chewing gum etc on the baffle. (a trick i believe that was common with old trad jazzers)
sorry but if anyone cares, i'm with Mr Speigalthal on this one
donald
Post Edited (2007-01-14 09:34)
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