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Author: skygardener
Date: 2006-11-26 11:35
Hi,
I was just reading through one of my favorite pieces from the violin part.
Does anyone know of any published transcriptions of the Franck Vn. Sonata in A for clarinet?
I think it fits into the hands very well for A clarinet (no surprise why), but I would like to avoid writing it out myself.
thanks,
Sky
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-11-26 12:19
Don't think there is a version for clarinet. That one is really sacred to violinists, i don't think i'd like to step on their toes. You should arrange it.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-11-26 13:04
It may be sacred to violinists, but cellists and flutists play it all the time. I think our repertoire would benefit from such an addition.
Best of luck!
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-11-26 14:05
Never heard of a cellist playing this piece, or any of my flute playing mentioning that this sonata is in their repertoire. ![[huh]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie11.gif)
Peter Cigleris
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-11-26 14:30
I've heard recordings/performances by flutists Julius Baker, James Galway, Marina Piccinini, Doriot Dwyer and Emmanuel Pahud. I know of recordings (haven't heard them though) by Donald Peck, Jean Pierre Rampal, and Jacques Zoon. Although I've never heard it performed live on cello, a catalog lists recordings by cellists, Jacqueline Du Pre, Yo-Yo Ma, Steven Isserlis, and others. I also found a recording by a violist, Nobuko Imai. It always seemed quite common to me to hear this on instruments other than the violin. I wonder if perhaps it's not so fashionable in the U.K.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2006-11-26 14:46
If there is interest in a clarinet transcription of this Franck piece, I might take it on as a project. I am always looking for good suggestions as long as they fit the clarinet. Right now I am working on a transcription of the Andante movement of a cello sonata by Rachmaninov that works very well for clarinet.
It doesn't seem to me that current or past recording artists had any problem playing music written for other instruments, especially when they worked well on their instrument. Some I have heard are flat bad ideas and ruin the piece; others are complementary to the piece and increase the audience.
johng
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-11-26 14:56
I didn't realise that there were quite a few recordings of flute players playing this piece. I for one have only heard it played by violinists. Is it a case of, we can record this piece but really wouldn't play it live? Like the Beethoven Vln Concerto for clarinet.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-11-26 16:28
John,
I'd definitely be interested in a transcription of the Franck Sonata, it's one of my favorite violin pieces. Let me know if you take it on.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2006-11-26 17:07
WAIT, WAIT!
Before doing that Franck thingie, please do the (violin) Introduction and Rondo Capriccio by Saint-Saens.
I have the piece but find it a challenge to read all those super altissimo (come down an octave) upper ledger lines.
When i told "my" violinist that this was on my "to-do" list, she suggested that I stick to my own literature!!
Bob Phillips
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2006-11-26 20:02
I do agree that we should stick to our own rep and not always try and pinch everybody else's. We have some amazing repertoire that string players are jealous of.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2006-11-27 01:36
>We have some amazing repertoire that string players are jealous of.
That is very true, Peter.
However, I do not look at doing transcriptions as pinching other people's literature so much as giving the opportunity for the music to be played by a wider audience. Taking the example of Brahms, I believe he did the viola transcriptions of "our" sonatas himself. Handel and Bach reused music a great deal, and Liszt did many transcriptions of other's work to play in the concert hall. All of these composers were very careful to make transcriptions only when it made sense, though, and I try to follow that advice with what I do.
As an example, I got interested in piano trios (violin, cello, and piano) and seeing if clarinet could be substituted for violin. There is some wonderful Romantic period literature there. But upon reviewing the scores, many pieces would be unplayable or downright strange on clarinet. However, I did come across a piano trio by Clara Schumann where the violin part was in a good clarinet range and lended itself to a clarinet, cello, and piano trio quite well. As we discover with the Brahms trio, it is a wonderful combination of instruments.
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: diz
Date: 2006-11-27 02:39
As a viola player and clarinetist, I've certainly never been jealous of the Brahms sonatas because he authorised the viola version himself. As to the Franck, I can't imagine why one shouldn't play it on a clarinet ... go for it.
Without music, the world would be grey, very grey.
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