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Author: donald
Date: 2006-11-18 04:22
kia ora
i'm discovering my way around a 1978 Buffet RC A clarinet, and i've found an amazing resonance fingering for open G (previously i've never used such fingerings on G as they haven't worked on my other Clarinets).
If you're interested- the 2nd and 3rd fingers of the right hand (without little finger on the f/c key or any left hand fingers) work a treat. A fuller, more resonant sound that matches A and Bflat well, with the pitch lowered just a few cents, and the resistance matches "lower upper reg" tones well in legato situations.
This may or may not work on other clarinets or for other players, and many of you will of course not be interested. However i thought it was worth posting as i don't recall seeing this suggested anywhere in the extensive clarinet literature i've read over the years...
keep playing the good tunes
donald
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-11-18 05:49
The fingering o o o/ o x x for open G is not listed, per se, in either Hadcock, Ridenour or Sym, although Sym does suggest trying different right hand combinations.
For me, I've always found that a good choice for open G on the R13, is:
o o o/ x x o
...GBK
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2006-11-18 13:10
In his Menuhin series book, Jack Brymer wrote at length about using resonance fingerings to make each note match the next in volume and color. He said that open G was a particular problem and gave several fingerings.
It's available from Gary van Cott. Go to http://www.vcisinc.com/clarinet.htm and find item C033.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2006-11-18 14:02
Whenever I "try out" a horn similar to mine, I always run through the various resonance fingerings that I've used over the years and see if they are consistent across the two horns. While I've seen few full Boehm instruments over the years, I can report that (in the three Series 9 full Boehm Bb horns that I've seen), there is little consistency in the application of the various shading that the resonance fingerings seem to impart.
In particular, I have found that RH middle finger does a good job on throat G and Ab (but not A) on my horn. (This, of course, means that both the middle finger and the pad located to the north of the first finger chimney are both closed). It did not produce the same effect on the two other horns (with my mouthpiece and reed in all cases). The only difference between the three horns was that mine was equipped with silver plated keywork, while the others were standard nickel-silver as received from the manufacturer. Go figure...
Having a list of such fingerings is a good guide to start with, but ultimately you have to development them on an instrument by instrument basis. I usually experimented this way during long tones following a warm up, and made it a point to jot down any discoveries so as not to forget them once they had been "found".
And, what is a good policy to follow on soprano clarinets applies in spades for the bass clarinet. I've found that fiddling around with the long keys on the extension portion of the horn can work wonders with the notes ranging from C below the staff to Bb in the middle of it.
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-11-18 14:08
GBK, that's why Ridenour left all those fingering charts blank actually, just in case you found something he didn't know about. Actually, o o o/ o x x seems to resonate better for me (it's too sharp on my instrument, a late 90's R-13).
I find o o o/ x x o is usually better in tune. All depends on the situation of course.
Actually, my current clarinet professor showed o o o/ o x x to me a few months ago. He said Elsa-Ludwig Verdehr teaches that one.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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Author: donald
Date: 2006-11-18 19:24
i have used resonance fingerings for B flat, A and G sharp since i first read about them in Jack Brymer in 1982 at the glorious age of... well that's a secret. Over the years with different clarinets/mouthpiece/barrels/register vents i've used many different fingerings in different situations/dynamics etc
But i've never really used Rfingerings on G except in "sudden intonation emergency" situations, and i'm aware that many teachers (both in and out of the USA) don't recommend their use on this note. I mentioned this fingering not only because it sounds/tunes well, but it matches the other fingerings i use. Nice to hear i'm on the same page as Elsa LV, though all this stuff will be different for every player. For instance 000/xx0 doesn't work at all on my current A clarinet and is too flat on my Bflat....
donald
ps- Ron Aufmann showed me 00x/x00 for G sharp, a killer sound but i don't use it very often as it sticks out too much- every so often i find the right place to use it, and i'm reminded of Mr Aufmann. If anyone out there knows him, say hello from me please!
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Author: GoatTnder
Date: 2006-11-19 07:26
I play on an RC, and your fingering for open G might come in handy, especially considering the ones I use for A and Bb.
A: o o x / o x x F
Bb: o o x / o o x F
So from G to A would be real simple. Not too hard to Bb from G also. As for Ab, I use the same as donald, so it doesn't quite fit the same. Oh well.
-Andy Cabrera
a.l.cabrera@gmail.com
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