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Author: Roger Aldridge
Date: 2006-10-31 16:41
I'm curious what mouthpieces are getting good results (ie, intonation, tonal quality) on the Patricola C clarinet.
While we're at it, could you please describe your tonal conception of the C. That is, are you attempting to sound similar to a Bb or do you think of the C as being in effect a different instrument than the Bb and therefore having a different tonal color.
Thanks, Roger
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2006-10-31 17:16
From what I have tried I find the Patricola C's tend to resemble the Buffet C clarinets greatly but play better in tune than the Buffet C clarinets.
David Dow
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2006-10-31 17:36
(Disclaimer - I sell the Forte' Bb and C clarinets)
Probably some of the talented mouthpiece makers can chime in about their conception of what a dedicated "C" clarinet mouthpiece should be but altogether it is quite instrument dependent - the conception of the design of the bore varies between the various "C" clarinets on the market. Your specific question is about the Patricola C so I will not belabor our own experience with the Forte' C. Most "C" clarinets will work with your standard Bb mouthpiece but seem to be more successful with closer tip openings and harder reeds.
IMO the "C" clarinet has different tonal qualities than the Bb. Arguments abound about the differences between "A" and "Bb" sounding similar. The concept of the "C" was to be akin to the female soprano voice and therefore higher, with less complex overtones and more fundamental frequencies. Some examples of the "C" clarinet being sold can sound shrill and with too much fundamental frequency. The "sweetness" (and of course this is a subjective term not shared or appreciated by all) IMO comes from the blending of more even harmonics with less complex (fewer multiples of the odd harmonic frequencies and fewer series of odd harmonics) odd harmonic frequencies. The same fundamental frequency note played on a Bb and C clarinet IMO sound differently based on this appreciable (at least by spectral analysis) difference in harmonic output of each.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2006-11-01 11:51
My Patricola C plays pretty well in-tune. It sounds much more like an Eb than a Bb.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-11-02 20:45
I played a Greg Smith Grenadilla wood mouthpiece on my Patricola C clarinet a few years back. I sold the clarinet because I didn't seem to use it much, but it was a lovely instrument. It was well constructed with a very nice tone. I had owned a Leblanc Noblet before I bought the Patricola. Lisa Argiris hand-selected the Patricola for me and told me it was as good an instrument as the much more expensive Buffet Prestige. I didn't play a Buffet to compare, but she did, so I was sold. Nice.
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Author: Steve Epstein
Date: 2006-11-04 05:14
FWIW:
I use a Woodwind K 10 M, or a Vandoren B 45 Lyre, occassionally, with a 3.5 V-12 or 3 traditional Vandoren reed, and a Rovner lig or just a simple cheap metal lig. How would I categorize my sound? Well, the other night I was listening to a recording of our contradance band playing some old-time Appalachian fiddle tunes and I was bending notes a bit, and I thought I sounded like an early New Orleans player.
Steve Epstein
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Author: LarryBocaner ★2017
Date: 2006-11-04 17:38
I'm playing a Ralph Morgan RM-06 on my Buffet R13 C Clarinet. I was never happy about the intonation over the years when I played it on a progression of Vandoren mouthpieces (UD360, B45., M15), but from the moment I tried the Morgan the problems (flat throat and altissima) seem to go away. And the sound of the instrument seems to have improved, too!
I don't know how mouch of this would carry over to your Patricola, but it might be worth a try!
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