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Author: Cuisleannach
Date: 2006-10-26 04:40
I've read the old posts but is there anything new under the sun (as far as opinions or reviews) regarding Arioso A clarinets?
-Randy
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2006-10-26 12:19
Looks like Tom has once more been busy and created a new line of clarinets called Lyri'que. Arioso is no longer mentioned on his web site. I will have to try them at the upcoming TMEA convention. I also do not know if he is still making clarinets for WWBW as he has in the past.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: sherman
Date: 2006-10-26 13:23
I have a Ridenour A Clarinet. It is simply the best A I have ever owned and plays almost as we say, by itself. It makes me remember the old days when people always used to regard the A clarinet as something to avoid, truly, many of us in Boston played everything on one clarinet, a Full Boehm Bb, which made everything possible, better in tune, and while it didn't teach you to transpose it made it most mandatory and actually simple. Then we were advised to get an A with less resistance than the B because it seemed so much more resistant, and then when the clarinets became competitive, one company against the other and they started to improve, it was still somewhat of a hassle, the switching to A.
The Ridenour A clarinet is simply totally even in production of sound, intonation, and the ability to play the second movement of the Brahms 4th, or the Cadenza from Peter and the Wolf, with ease, and not feeling like the cat who climbs the tree.
Just call it the Ridenour A. I wonder why his modesty keeps him from calling it that. This is one designer whose name really belongs on his horn, and many others as well.
stay well, all
Sherman Friedland
http://clarinet.cc
Post Edited (2006-10-26 13:25)
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2006-10-26 21:26
As I understand it, Tom Ridenour cannot use his own name on his current clarinets because his former employer, Brook Mays Music, owns the rights to his name.
Post Edited (2006-10-26 21:28)
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Author: EuGeneSee
Date: 2006-10-27 01:06
David, wasn't that the name of the second 1957 satellite? It would be an appropriate name for a horn with a real high altissimo range to emulate the Don Cossack whistling when the orchestra is playing "Meadowlands". Eu
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Author: Merlin
Date: 2006-10-27 14:09
Quote:
As I understand it, Tom Ridenour cannot use his own name on his current clarinets because his former employer, Brook Mays Music, owns the rights to his name.
But hasn't Brook Mays crashed and burned? Wouldn't that terminate the restriction?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2006-10-27 14:43
Merlin wrote:
> But hasn't Brook Mays crashed and burned?
The one we knew did. But it still exists in name ...
> Wouldn't that
> terminate the restriction?
We'd have to ask the lawyers involved ...
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-10-27 15:39
My son worked for Brook Mays Print Music in Dallas--a partnership company of some kind. One day the liquidator lawyers arrived and locked down the place, confiscating his boss's laptop, etc. They weren't allowed to remove anything from the place and his boss may even lose his home and other personal property in the deal. Yes, they knew Brook Mays was in financial trouble, but everyone was trying to fulfill the needs of the customers in the Dallas area. His boss had to buy this season's sheet music out of his own pocket because Brook Mays' credit was no good--it was taken by the liquidation company and he is out in the cold. He's working with lawyers. It's a mess.
The Brook Mays store here in Abilene, TX is the old Caldwell Music Co. That was everyone's favorite store (Caldwell's) until Brook Mays got it. But, the old store owner is a friend of mine and he still owns the building and has told us he's arranged for another music company to come in and be like his old store with good merchandise and good company. All the retired band directors and music lovers used to go hang out.
If Tom signed anything with Brook Mays concerning the use of his name, he's sunk until the time limit of the agreement, or getting a fancy lawyer to fix it.
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Author: sherman
Date: 2006-10-27 15:58
If his name is owened by Brook Mays, why do current Ridenour clarinets have his name on every mouthpiece as far as I know, and I have several in my drawer of fallen mouthpieces to prove it. I still think that his name is perfect for a clarinet for which he has done so much. Many of us know that his name could prefix any Opus, Concerto,Sonata,Rhapsody and L70 of the Leblanc line.
Stay well, all,
Sherman Friedland
http://clarinet.cc
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-10-27 18:08
Sherman,
All I can figure about the Ridenour mouthpieces is, if they didn't come through the Brook Mays company in some fashion, he may be required to pay Brook Mays a portion of the profit from them. That's what my son's division had to do. They paid Brook Mays a percentage of every sale off the print music division. So, even though there are still lots of Ridenour mouthpieces out there, and perhaps Tom even has some, he probably signed an agreement to give over a portion of the sales to BM. Or, he had a separate agreement on those. You'd have to ask him. Each person involved in the BM thing (and it was a BIG thing) had different agreements.
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Author: Cuisleannach
Date: 2006-10-28 17:52
I suppose he could always change his name to an unpronouncable symbol (like maybe a "g clef" with a clarinet on it) like Prince did to escape Time Warner.
-Randy
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-10-28 20:09
When one has a reputation such as Mr. Ridenour, I understand why he would just use a different name instead of fighting some stupid legal/financial matter. Why waste the time? People interested in his products will seek and find them regardless of whether or not they have his name on them.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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Author: BassClarinet21
Date: 2006-10-30 02:06
I'm a middle school student and despite what many people say I NEED a low c Bass clarinet. I was wondering one, is arioso and allora the same, two, could an arioso/allora be a bass clarinet that i could play through college and it not be used as a cheap substitute for a Buffet Prestige, and three, if it would be a substitute is there a way I could a different cheap good quality low c Bb bass clarinet?
If you say I don't need one look at the score of Orion By van ander roost; and I'm an aspiring clarinetist that could use one.
I'M Playing A Grade 6 solo for solo and ensemble, doesn't that say enough?
Also, even though it's not on subject, do you know if the italian crystal mouth pieces good?
I hope you understand,
Logan
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-10-30 19:27
Logan, if you find a good Arioso or Allora bass clarinet with low c, you would probably have one that would carry you through college. Tom's designs are excellent.
I'd skip the crystal mouthpieces and get a good one for your bass clarinet from Walter Grabner (a sponsor).
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2006-10-31 14:51
Walter Grabner is a sponsor on this board and also a bass clarinet player. He is a great gentleman with knowledge that would be beneficial to you in your playing. A good mouthpiece can make a huge difference in your playing now and in the future. Here's a link to one that might work for you.
< http://www.clarinetxpress.com/bass.html#CX_BB_PERS >
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Author: clockwiser
Date: 2007-06-06 18:24
What happens with Brook Mays now? Their website is under maintainance for a long time.
Can you still access to their price list?
Also, do they still sell Ridenour's clarinets?
Thanks
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2007-06-06 21:21
I have two of Ridenours Ariosos. Fine instruments,set up by him. I also have several TR147s, also excellent, and set up by him. I believe the Lyrique is similar to the earlier models which were set up by him. Not all Ariosos were set up by him.
richard smith
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2007-06-07 04:38
Modesty? Tom Ridenour?
Yes, his instruments are really good (I've owned or own three), and his other products are too.
But "modesty"? :-)
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