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Author: chicagoclar
Date: 2006-09-27 18:02
Now that I am done with my degree and I am taking lessons for fun (meaning I don't have a recital coming up quickly) I want to spend a lot of time working on orchestral excerpts, but I don't know where to start. Is there a must-have collection or book of excerpts?
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Author: larryb
Date: 2006-09-27 18:54
a search of "orchestral excerpts" will give you lots of results.
Boils down to: Bondade, Giampieri (2 vols), International Music Corporation (many volumes, some not in print), Hadcock.
There are also single composer excerpt collections, eg: Strauss, Verdi, Tchaikovsky, Brahms
And some will argue that you should aquire complete parts, not just excerpts.
Good luck!
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Author: bcl1dso
Date: 2006-09-27 19:32
Mcginnis Excerpts are definetly a must have. My edition is published in four volumes, I am not sure if it still is however.
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Author: Ryan25
Date: 2006-09-27 19:50
If you get the Cd rom Library (5 volumes I think) and the Hadcock Book "The Working Clarinetist" then you will have a pretty big collection. These two sorces are not complete as far as having every excerpt possible but it is a great start and plenty of music to work on over the next year.
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Author: J. J.
Date: 2006-09-27 20:01
The CD-Rom library is the best way to go, but it's hard to get a mix of everything in an affordable manner. Since it sounds like you're just starting out, I would definitely get the Hadcock book.
I would go so far as to say that the Bonade and McGinnis books might be detrimental to you if you're serious about this. They are riddled with mistakes that can cause major problems when playing from them or trying to unlearn them at a later point.
The Hadcock book is almost perfect in terms of reprinting the original articulations, notes, and dynamics; the very things your excerpt playing will be judged by. The Bonade and International books, standards for many years, are seriously outdated and should only be used as a reference for pieces that are difficult to come by.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-09-27 20:23
Kalman Bloch's "The Orchestral Clarinet - A Study of Symphonic Repertoire" (3 volumes) has all the core audition repertoire and would be a worthwhile source to own.
It is similar to the Hadcock as far as commentary, suggestions, fingerings, interpretation, etc...
BTW - It is the only excerpt book (I think) that contains "Rhapsody in Blue"...GBK
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Author: larryb
Date: 2006-09-27 20:50
And one should also add: Ben Armato's "Opera Clarinetist" book
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Author: clarinetmc
Date: 2006-09-27 22:11
My suggestion is to get your hands on full orchestral parts...many excerpt books are edited with incorrect articulations, and even incorrect notes, etc. It is important to have the most reliable source of information, especially when auditioning for a professional job.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2006-09-27 22:15
I second (or third, or fourth!) the Hadcock book. Not just for the great advice it gives, but the excerpts are printed very well, better than most I think. Also, it has what he thought to be the only 'correct' version of The Firebird, which is an excerpt I've had on practically every audition I've ever gone for. Seriously, I think there was one where it wasn't on there.
I also second (or third, or...) the Orchestral Musician's CD ROM Library. Every time someone asks you to do a gig, you can begin preparing that very day, because you've already got the full part!
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2006-09-28 00:49
I have all of the Intenation Music Edition books and think you really ought to have them to seriously understand what is involved in orchestral work. Also beware there are a number of errors in these books...so make sure you have the right notes...!
David Dow
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Author: donald
Date: 2006-09-28 19:11
there's actually also a book that Trinity College (London) put out with exerpts for their "LTCL" exam (you are/were required to learn the entire book and could be asked any 3 if i remember correctly). This actually has a nice selection of pieces- many of which are not commonly found (know?) in the US study/audition repertoire and are very satisfying to learn/teach/play.
i don't know the exact name of the book- my copy "went missing" last year after i lent it to a student. (i'm sure someone on the BB will know this info)
donald
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Author: rgames
Date: 2006-09-30 14:07
Here's another vote for acquiring the actual parts - a lot of auditions ask for ranges outside what's given in the excerpts and a number of the excerpts don't have good rehearsal markings. So when the auditions calls for "two before A to two before B" and the rehearsals aren't in the excerpt book, you're out of luck. You can usually guess but I've had a few instances where it's not so obvious. Also, when you sit down for the audition, it helps to have looked at the same music that they present to you. That's just a psychological effect but it helps me feel more confident.
One issue that I haven't seen mentioned is getting good recordings of the entire orchestra. Many of the "Orchestral Excerpts" CD's include the clarinet playing alone; using this type of recording as a study guide is insufficient because it doesn't give you the context of the excerpt. With the availability of downloadable music for less than $1 a track, you can get recordings of an entire audition's worth of excerpts for $15 or $20.
(Anyody else notice the well-known clarinetist who dubbed the high G at the end of the Beethoven 8 mvmt 3 trio on his excerpts CD? Maybe they just didn't have enough time to re-record the entire 15 second excerpt...).
rgames
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-09-30 21:10
Richard, I'm happy to hear that I'm not the only one less than impressed with that CD. I was particularly surprised with a few other things on that one. Among them was an inaccurately counted rest in the Mendelssohn Scherzo. I second utilizing the downloadable music resources. It's very reasonably priced, and you can easily make a cd of everything you need to be listening to for an audition.
Christopher Nichols, D.M.A.
Assistant Professor of Clarinet
University of Delaware
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