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Author: Tony Pay ★2017
Date: 2006-04-27 18:46
In another thread, I wrote:
>> Bob Phillips wrote:
>>>how does one tongue with the mpc upside down?">>>
>> You mean, to be politically correct, 'with the reed uppermost'?-)
>> I imagine with a little more the underside of the tip of the tongue.
>>I often do that anyway, especially in the high register, so it doesn't feel all that strange to me.>>
It strikes me that it might be worthwhile to generally underline the fact that a very delicate reed/tongue contact suffices to stop the reed vibrating in all but the chalumeau of the instrument.
The common 'tip to tip' instruction doesn't sufficiently characterise this delicacy. So, since the tongue is a bit 'rough', because there are papillae on its surface, I often tell people to use just one or two of those papillae to stop the vibration of the reed.
It's an order of magnitude different from what an inexpert 'tonguer' often turns out to have been doing.
Remember that you never start the vibration of the reed with the tongue. You rather 'stop stopping it.'
Tony
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2006-04-27 21:47
I was once told (and it seems to have worked), that when tonguing in the upper registers and upper notes, to tongue the reed lower than the tip. Closer to where your bottom lip touches the reed. This helps eliminate the harshness of a bad tip to tip. I know it's "cheating" a bit (instead of learning to do it delicately, you use the same force on a different part of the reed), but it seems to help.
I was also told to experiment with other places of tonguing. IE, tonguing the side of the reed, lower, tip, covering up the opening with my tongue, in order to get different effects and figure out which ones work for which areas.Quote:
Remember that you never start the vibration of the reed with the tongue. You rather 'stop stopping it.' This information when I was told, is a revelation. It changed my way of thinking and my sound A LOT (in a positive manner). I tell anyone that has tonguing problems this bit of information just incase they haven't yet started to think about tonguing this way.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2006-04-28 01:25
Sfalexi wrote:
＞I was once told (and it seems to have worked), that when tonguing in the upper registers and upper notes, to tongue the reed lower than the tip. Closer to where your bottom lip touches the reed.
I have a book 'Training book for clarinet' written by Charles Neidich and Fumiko Ohshima written in Japanese and published in Japan.
There is a description on this matter in this book.
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From the tip of reed toward the stock,the position of the lower teeth should be:
9th harmonics
1st (basic)harmonics
7th harmonics
3rd harmonics
5th harmonics
For example, to slur from D(1st harmonics) below the staff to A above the staff(its 3rd harmonics): If you keep the same position of your lower teeth, you will recognize a lower harmonics(sounds like boooo) included in A. You should find a position where you can get a clean A by lowering the lower teeth position.
You can exercize this for the slur from D# below the staff to A flat above the staff.
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I wonder how he found these exact positions.Maybe with a scientific method.
Post Edited (2006-04-28 01:27)
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