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 Baermann full Boehm fingering chart.
Author: chalameau 
Date:   2006-04-15 21:11

I have recently acquired the Baermann Method book part 5. Unfortunately the pages with the full Boehm fingering chart are missing. Is there some kind soul who already possesses this book who might be willing to photocopy or email me the missing pages? I really would be most obliged.
Many thanks.

chalumeux

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 Re: Baermann full Boehm fingering chart.
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-04-15 22:55

The fingerings will be as standard Boehm, but you can use xox|ooo for Eb4 or Bb5, and low Eb with the speaker key open for Bb4 (with more substance), instead of the usual throat Bb.

And here's the best fingering I know for altissimo Bb6 on full Boehms (as the C#/G# key stays closed when the RH rings are down):

Speaker key, thumb OFF the thumb hole xxx|xxx F/C

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 Re: Baermann full Boehm fingering chart.
Author: GBK 
Date:   2006-04-15 23:33

The old Otto Fritzsche fingering chart which is included in the Carl Fischer/Bettoney edition of Baermann V is from the 1940's. There are diagrams of both a regular 17/6 Boehm clarinet and a full Boehm 21/7 clarinet. Fingerings are given which apply to both, or in some cases the full Boehm only.

Fingerings for the altissimo notes are fairly basic and can be found in many other similar charts.

I also noticed that many useful alternate fingering choices were omitted. More importantly, the use the open thumb hole for notes from C6 and above were not given.

Thus, the chart is limited (and somewhat dated) by today's standards.

Both the Ridenour book, the Alan Sim book have a better layout and are easier to read. They also offer MANY more choices and give useful commentary on each fingering.



The bigger problem:

The Bettoney/Baermann (Carl Fischer) edition is still reprinting the same original plates from 1938/1939 and it shows. There are a number of smudged notes, half inked notes, and extraneous ink marks throughout.

The books are also cluttered with many superfluous, old fashioned articulation symbols, and fingering notations which refer to the old Otto Fritzsche fingering chart.

Hite's edition is much cleaner and easier to read. He also suggests a number of very useful fingering ideas to help with the difficult passages.


BTW - The easiest fingering for Bb6 on either a full Boehm or regular Bb clarinet is to use the standard fingering for A6:

TR o x x / o o o F#/C#

and just remove the thumb - giving:

R o x x / o o o F#/C#


...GBK

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 Re: Baermann full Boehm fingering chart.
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2006-04-16 01:46

That removal of the thumb is something that many clarinet players of my acquaintance have a lot of trouble with. Don't understand why, particularly as we quite frequently play with the thumb lifted (F#, G, A, Bb); perhaps it's just against instinct to lift the thumb while depressing the register key.

It's never too late to learn a new way of taking on a problem. As a self-taught sax player, it was a good twenty years before someone pointed out to me how eas yit was to hold down any of the table keys to play a G#. Similarly, I've known sax players, all of whom hate "one and one" for Bb, who never used "one and one" on their clarinet for all the wrong reasons.

Live and learn...

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 Re: Baermann full Boehm fingering chart.
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2006-04-16 10:27

And on bari sax (with low A) you can go from low A to mid G# just by taking all the RH fingers off as well, but still keeping your left thumb on the low A key.

I'm finding flute the one that causes me the most trouble at the moment - I keep forgetting to take my thumb off quickly enough for C and C# - on oboe, even though I play dual system with thumbplate added for Bb and C (and my first oboe was purely thumbplate system), I tend to use the Conservatoire fingerings as they have more substance (and only use the thumbplate for arpeggios) and the fact more fingers are held down when going across the break - but sometime in the future I'll build myself a sax system oboe and cor anglais so I can get around playing them much more fluently, especially around the top register.

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