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Author: ClarinetEd
Date: 2006-03-19 22:25
This is a pretty popular clarinet solo. For a performance, i am playing all 3 of the movements. It's for clarinet and orchestra, but the orchestra part is fit into a piano. Some of the parts still has to be played by strings. i got violin 1, Cello 1, but in the Second movement, an instrument labeled as Hr. I, II is playing an very important part.... does anyone know what Hr stand for?
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Author: Kevin
Date: 2006-03-19 22:32
Hr. would be the french horn.
I don't understand, you are going to perform the concerto with a piano, a violin, a cello, and horns as your accompainment?
I think what's going on is that your music is just for piano, but the editor has decided to place little instrument markings, almost similar to cues, which correspond to what happens in the orchestral music. I don't think it is intended that you actually play those lines with the actual instruments. Perhaps somebody else could explain better than I have.
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Author: ClarinetEd
Date: 2006-03-19 22:35
Also, what does a "S lying on the side on top of a note" stand for?
Post Edited (2006-03-19 22:41)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-03-19 23:33
ClarinetEd wrote:
> Also, what does a "S lying on the side on top of a note" stand for?
Gruppetto ...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-03-19 23:51
Considering that there can be as many as 14 turns ( "S lying on the side on top of a note") in Weber #1, depending on your personal interpretation and if your edition has already written some of them out, it is probably a good idea to learn how to play them ...GBK
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Author: clarinetgirl09
Date: 2006-03-20 02:04
Although a private teacher who could give you some lessons would be easier to explain what a Gruppetto is (because they can play it for you), it wouldn't hurt to give you the idea.
When you see a Gruppetto, you start on the note (but hold the note for nearly it's full value) that occurs before the sign. You start on that note (say it is a C), you would go up to D, down to C, down a wholestep to B, and back up to C. Depending on whether or not it is placed between a dotted note and another note with the same value depends on how the Gruppetto should be played.
As EEBaum said, a private teacher in person, can explain a Gruppetto like there's no tomorrow, and it would be easier to understand.
Good luck!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-03-20 02:24
clarinetgirl09 wrote:
> down to C, down a wholestep to B.....
B is a half step below C ...GBK
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Author: crnichols
Date: 2006-03-20 11:44
Well, instead of being condescending, I think I will offer some advice. It appears that the individual that is asking for help is a less experienced player, and is using this board for one of it's main purposes.
The first thing I'm going to suggest you do is get out your copy of the complete Klose or the 1st two divisions of the Baermann method, and read the explanations of notation (if you don't have these methods, they are worth your time and money to acquire). This will explain in detail the rules of the gruppetto, and answer your questions. Second point, if you can't afford or arrange a few lessons before the performance, or even if you can, you should use this bulletin board to help you. Use the search function, look up Weber concerto, and you will have so much information (some useful some not) that you will probably find answers to questions you didn't even have. I recall a recent post by Ken Shaw summarizing a masterclass with Stanley Drucker that included this piece in particular. Thirdly, a good recording is going to help you a great deal, Karl Leister, David Shifrin, Phillipe Cuper just to name a few of the numerous outstanding recordings available. Each one is different and wonderful in it's own way.
Lastly, you have stumbled upon a rather good idea; adding a little bit of colour to the piano accompaniment by having orchestral instruments play their parts. I think this will make your performance of a classic work a little more dramatic, individual and exciting for both you and the audience.
My final note, to certain posters of this board: if you can go back to a time when you didn't know what gruppetti were...hopefully you'll discover that it was taught to you in a manner that intrigued you and inspired you to ask more questions. It cannot be expected that everyone finishes years of musical education before posting on this board.
Christopher Nichols
1st Infantry Division Band
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