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Author: Bradley
Date: 2006-01-13 07:55
The other senior in my school's studio Orlando and I were in one of the school libraries checking out CDs to borrow, and we came across a [HILARIOUS] cover of 6 Vivaldi Recorder Concertos. I said to him when I saw it "look! a 60 minute Vivaldi Recorder Concerto!" (hehe) and the grimace in reaction was great. Because of Petri's significant height over the conductor on the cover and his creepy facial expression, Orlando decided to get it just for fun. Then we came across another album of hers "The Virtuoso Recorder". Then a few minutes later.....another! All on RCA Victor I believe. I was like "go her...making money". As I listen to The Virtuoso Recorder, I am amazed. He gave it to me and told me I had to listen. Has anyone heard her perform before? I'm not experienced with recorder artists exactly, but she's amazing- maybe others are as good.
At school the art divisions have a senior showcase some years, and this year we were planning a showcase in music. They're completely planned by the seniors, and usually they get a lot of attention because everyone at school wants to see the seniors in sort of a final performance (now I finally won't be in the audiences). They're meant to be humourous at times, and so we were planning a recorder ensemble and maybe a handbell ensemble like the Raleigh Ringers. Orlando has a really amusing recording of Tchaik 4 for Recorder Ensemble. We were planning to do a similar thing that would be really entertaining. Anyone have any suggestions as far as repertoire? It's good in a way that we found Petri at the start of our careers :-)
I want to do a Portsmouth Sinfonia based orchestra, but that might be hard to organize. I've been wanting to be a Principal cellist or Cor anglais for a while though....
Bradley
Post Edited (2006-01-13 07:56)
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-01-13 09:49
I've only heard her play live once, in Birmingham (England) about 1980. I actually have her autograph, not something I'd normally bother about.
She is a good player, and has been very successful. But she differs from other recorder soloists in that she is less concerned about authenticity. She has made various recordings with the Academy of St Martin in the Fields, for example. Whatever you might think of them, they aren't an authentic instruments band.
I played the recorder for years, but it is a long time since I've bought any recorder records so I can't really tell you who to listen to.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2006-01-13 13:03
As an amateur recorder player, I'm a big fan of Michala Petri. The authenticity issue doesn't bother me as much as it does some people. I prefer authenticity, but I love listening to her play whether she's all academically correct or not.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.
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Author: BassetHorn
Date: 2006-01-13 13:40
Since we are on the recorder topic (hope the moderators let this run for just a little longer : ), I always felt the recorder's sweet sound will add much to the standard orchestra, why isn't the recorder next to the flute?
And wouldn't recorder be a more appropriate member of the woodwind quintet instead of the horn? Being a true woodwind and all...
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Author: FrankM
Date: 2006-01-13 13:54
Recorders are great fun to play, but have issues playing with modern instruments when it comes to volume. If you're lookin for some nice recorder CDs, try Rene Clemencic, Franz Bruggen, Marion Bruggen and the Amsterdam Loki Stardust Quartet ( I think I've got the spellings correct!)
Also , if you would like to give recorder a try there are some really playable and affordable plastic instruments around (Aulos, Zen On, Yamaha). IMHO, start with an alto (treble) recorder...more fun than the usual soprano that's kicking around the house that your kids used to joust each other with!
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-01-13 13:56
"why isn't the recorder next to the flute"
Because recorder players don't, in general, enjoy having a two-foot metal pipe shoved in their left ear by someone who thinks that musical expressiveness means playing with an intonation varying rapidly between 30 and 60 cents sharp.
As to why there are no recorders in the orchestra, it's because they aren't loud enough. Recorders could, in principle, be redesigned to make them louder, but the enlargement of the toneholes this would require would destroy the cross-fingerings and make it necessary to fit them with keywork. In the process, they would stop sounding like recorders. Exactly this happened to the baroque flute as it evolved into the modern instrument.
As an ex horn player and more-or-less ex recorder player, I can only say that the horn brings far more to the wind quintet than the recorder could. The term "woodwind quintet", by the way, is wrong.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2006-01-13 15:16
Another bummer for recorder players is that increasing the volume raises the pitch. Pianissimo: Flat; mezzo forte: Sharp.
Except for a miraculous Yamaha soprano (in my closet) that has a pretty stable pitch.
Playing the thing fast with key signature other than "C" is like playing the clarinet entirely in the altissimo, a finger/brain entangler!
Bob Phillips
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Author: donald
Date: 2006-01-15 09:31
An old school friend of mine is a pro recorder player based in Ireland so i was lucky enough to be exposed to top level recorder playing from an early age, and don't find it an amusing concept (well, no more amusing than having to play in a marching band..... which is scary rather than amusing).
Curiously, the repertoire for recorder consists of music written before the clarinet reached popularity and acceptance.... and then (after a gap of about 200 years) modern "contemporary music" (or what we used to call "20th Century" music) in which performers are expected to all kinds of insane chromatic stuff that certainly pushes limits of possibility.
One of my former clarinet teachers actually played and recorded early music on the recorder prior to becoming Principal clarinet in a major orchestra. This gave him a strong background in "period performance" and enabled him to gain practical experience in western music from all the reccent "periods" of music- and thus a very balanced perspective.
donald
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Author: CJB
Date: 2006-01-16 13:02
As a keen amateur recorder player I dispute Bob's any key other than C comment.......we can manage F as well!
I find that as long as the music doesn't include a top C#/F# (depending on if a C or F fingered instrument) most key's that don't upset me on a clarinet are ok for a recorder. The top C#/F# requires covering the end of the instrument with your knee - can get painful!
Although the dynamic range is far more limited than other woodwinds it is possible to play in tune over a wide range - it just requires modifying the fingering according to the dynamic.
The recorder is also fantastic training for breath support - the slightest waver is totally audible, clarinet is much more forgiving.
......steps quickly from soap box before a rant really gets under way
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