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Author: john gibson
Date: 2006-01-08 20:40
Yes there are such things. It was just a matter of time before the company which manufactures the world's premier crystal mouthpieces expanded it's product line to include reeds.
My friend Ricardo Clericci sent me 3 of these reeds to try and I found them all to be excellent right "out of the box". All I did was smooth the back and the top with fine sandpaper and voila! They performed exceptionally well.
They are a good yellowish/brown color and very even grained.
Ricardo tells me they are biological hence they will be called bio-reeds. I think however he means ecological and probably organic in nature. I'll see if I can get some clarification from him this week.
The reeds are not for sale yet and won't be until they're introduced at the Frankfurt Music Fair later this year.
Just thought you guys would like to know.
John Gibson
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-01-08 21:16
Are they built on a thin or thick blank template?
Single or double cut? ...GBK
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2006-01-08 21:20
Do they have a bright or dark tone? Does your friend know how much a box of these reeds will cost once they are for sale?
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2006-01-08 21:23
GBK
I believe them to be thick blank and are single cut not the french file.
I will try and get more info from Riccardo.
JG
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Author: john gibson
Date: 2006-01-08 21:27
ElBlufer
As far as I can tell after playing each for just a few minutes, they are darker in sound than bright, but then again I've not tried them with any other mouthpiece but my Diamond crystal by Pomarico which is a bright model.
I've not been told what the price will be but am sure it will be competitive.
JG
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-01-08 21:31
ElBlufer wrote:
> Do they have a bright or dark tone?
A reed has no tone until combined with embouchure, mouthpiece, ligature, barrel and clarinet...GBK
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2006-01-08 21:38
GBK wrote:
> A reed has no tone until combined with embouchure, mouthpiece,
> ligature, barrel and clarinet...GBK
Yes, this is very true. However, I have found that different reeds tend to be different in tone. For instance, I find that on both of my mouthpieces (Cheap buffet mouthpiece and Vandoren B45) the Vandoren traditional reed is more bright than the 56 rue lepic or V12s. I am sorry if I led this thread astray.
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-01-08 21:53
ElBlufer wrote:
> Do they have a bright or dark tone?
Could you further explain what you mean by "bright tone" and "dark tone" ? ...GBK
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2006-01-08 21:56
A bright tone is a tone that almost sounds sharp to the ear, even when it is not. A dark (mellow) tone is sweet and has more tonal flexability.
note: this is only the opinion of an amateur clarinetist.
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
Post Edited (2006-01-08 21:57)
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-01-08 22:10
"... bright tone is a tone that almost sounds sharp to the ear, even when it is not. A dark (mellow) tone is sweet and has more tonal flexability..."
All of the above can be accomplished with different equipment (ex: mouthpieces, bore configuration, etc...) and variations in embouchure (single lip, double lip, etc...)
Reeds are just a small part of the equation...GBK
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Author: ElBlufer
Date: 2006-01-08 22:21
Thank you for clearing that up GBK, I will make sure to keep that in mind.
My Setup:
R13 Clarinet (Ridenour Lyrique as my backup/marching instrument)
Walter Grabner K11 mouthpiece
Rico Reserve 3.5's
Bonade ligature
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-01-08 22:22
I like the way you put it, GBK. J G , my impressions [VG] also on recieving [surprise !] a Bb sop 3 and 2 bass cl 2 1/2 reeds, many TKS, Riccardo, will try out and report. I agree on thick blank [butt], and very good "fiber-uniformity" by bright light viewing, am not sure just how to say what I mean. The sop played very well, a bit hard [but I'm just a softy, chalemeau/clarion sop. player]. I'll give the basses a careful playing going-over, I'm pleased that their width/length are identical with my preferred Rico Royal tenor sax reeds, and the same as what [specifically bass cl] other reeds I like. The backs of all 3 are very smooth, will require little polishing, but possibly a bit of careful softening. I am pleased to participate in a "study". Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: donald
Date: 2006-01-09 05:21
i look forward to trying these out
but i'm really looking forward to the day when Mr Backun puts out the "Morales-Backun" reed
keep playing the good tunes
donald
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2006-01-09 05:25
"A reed has no tone until combined with embouchure, mouthpiece, ligature, barrel and clarinet...GBK"
and most important, a player! 
Edit: or maybe that's what you meant by embouchure.
Post Edited (2006-01-09 05:26)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-01-09 15:10
Presuming that Riccardo and Pomarico are reading our comments here, I'd like to know if our new contributor/competitor to/in reed mfgr. also makes other sizes, specifically for Alto Sax/Clarinet use, as I'm heading in that direction now. For personal discussion I'll use direct EM, GBK/MC. TKS, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2006-01-09 18:23
GBK, on 2004-01-23 you wrote:
"I would agree that the Mozart reeds may exhibit a darker, covered type of sound with less edge. Some feel that the Mozart reeds have a more complex coloration. The Gonzalez reeds are full, vibrant and you may feel that they project a bit more."
I'm not clear how to reconcile that with your very forthright statement above that "a reed has no tone."
Just the thoughts of a humble amateur clarinet player, with much to be humble about.
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If there are so many people on this board unwilling or unable to have a civil and balanced discussion about important issues, then I shan't bother to post here any more.
To the great relief of many of you, no doubt.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2006-01-09 18:31
David...My statement that a "reed has no tone until..." was a tongue-in-cheek analogy, similar to "a mouthpiece has no tone until..."
I should have made it more clear..
I've put my ear very close to the reeds and mouthpieces on the shelf in my studio and have yet to hear anything ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
I do think, however, that a thicker blank reed, due to the increased mass, is more condusive to a covered (darker?) sound than thinner blank reeds...GBK
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2006-01-09 20:37
'I do think, however, that a thicker blank reed, due to the increased mass, is more condusive to a covered (darker?) sound than thinner blank reeds...GBK"
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Glad you clarified that one.
Also if you could find out where the cane is coming from (Spain?)
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2006-01-09 20:53
VG question, DB, my initials also ! Back to J G's thread initiation, using the term "bio-reeds", made me wonder if this cane is grown in "plantations etc" rather than as wild in So. France, due to both demand and desired consistency for our uses. I'd be surprised if it were NOT. Thots? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: larryb
Date: 2006-01-10 02:32
are they harvested only at full moon to maximize uniform sap distribution throughout the cane?
may also increase brightness
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Author: alexispianokeys
Date: 2014-10-07 15:36
hi!what number would u suggest to someone who uses vandoren's v12 2.5??the same?thanks
buffet rc prestige green line
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