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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-12-09 17:10
If somebody were to put Elvis Presley's underwear on eBay, someone would pay a million bucks for them.
When celebrity provenance is involved, all reason goes out the window. There is no correlation between price and actual value.
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-12-09 17:15
Good to see Presley finally sharing the same level of pop stardom as Bechet.
I knew Presley would get the recognition one day. His time has finally arrived.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-09 17:33
larryb wrote:
> Good to see Presley finally sharing the same level of pop
> stardom as Bechet.
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> I knew Presley would get the recognition one day. His time has
> finally arrived.
Elvis
...GBK
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-12-09 17:33
TKS, Ken, I was hoping to be able to find a pic, to find Make/Model, perhaps age. I have a 1903 Conn sop.sax, unplayable [leaky tone holes!!] at this time, might it be worth 1/10 of Sid's? Looking for info,pliz, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2005-12-09 17:42
Don -
The picture in the Times (12/9/05, p. E7) is quite small -- passport size -- and doesn't show a trademark. Someone on the sax boards will probably know the details.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-09 18:29
I seem to remember reading that Bechet's soprano sax was a silver Buescher True-Tone from the 1920's ...GBK
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-12-09 18:50
The NYTimes story just mentions his sax, but the catalogue description also indicates that his clarinet was also auctioned, if my French is correct:
Une trentaine de photos, lettres manuscrites, documents, accessoires de musique et, même, une veste en léopard... viennent à nouveau sur le devant de la scène. Et, surtout, on revoit son instrument fétiche, la clarinette, dont il commence à jouer à sept ans pour toujours lui rester fidèle, ainsi que le saxophone soprano des années 1925 sur lequel il a composé de nombreux standards. Estimation, pour l'une comme pour l'autre : 80 000 à 100 000 euros. Bechet Junior pourrait même, paraît-il, faire entendre quelques notes de musique dans la salle, histoire de faire encore plus swinguer les enchères !
The very clarinet that he started playing on at age 7??
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-12-09 18:51
Off-topic: GBK, I have heard a rumor (from a very reliable source) that YOU are, in fact, Elvis.........if so, I would like to know which clarinet brand you endorse, and when your undergarments will be auctioned off on The Internet Auction Site Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2005-12-09 19:11
David Spiegelthal wrote:
> The Internet Auction Site Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.
Ah, yes, as written in the Necronomicon, one of the lesser spawn of the great Nagoob and Yog-Sothoth, brother to Cthulhu. It's name is sometimes shortened to e§Bæ but its true form can never be spoken.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-12-09 19:27
Contact Daniel Bechet, Woody Allen or Bob Wilber; they'll be happy to furnish all the info.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-12-09 19:36
One of the S B websites, ?Society? said that his later [last?] Sop sax was purchased in London, SO? could be Eng, FR, US, etc. His best recordings were prob. the later ones, samples are available. Just search for Sidney Bechet and read/listen. Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: Tony Beck
Date: 2005-12-09 20:04
Speaking of Woody Allen, there was a picture in the local paper not long ago of him playing an ancient Albert System clarinet with a wrap around register key. If I recall, it was taken recently at a jazz club.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-12-09 20:12
> Albert System clarinet with a wrap around register key
FWIW my Indian Army Clarinet had that too. (it probably still does, but it's in a different part of the world now ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif) )
--
Ben
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Author: Terry Stibal
Date: 2005-12-09 21:29
It may be an Albert, but it's anything but ancient. He had Selmer make him a new one (as in N-E-W new) with the Albert system keywork when the upper joint of the old one cracked through and through to the point it could not be repaired.
This was in the ICS magazine a few years back, say in 1996 or so.
leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com
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Author: ghuba
Date: 2005-12-09 23:31
Ken Shaw wrote:
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> Do you suppose the buyer thinks he can get the same things out
> of it SB did?
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> Ken Shaw
The buyer is probably the same guy who did not think that $101.48 for Google on opening day (8/2/04) was completely ridiculous; continued to think he could make money by buying it on 12/31/04 for $199.23, and sold it this afternoon (12/9/05) for $410.65.
Expect this horn to be back on the market for $300,000 in about two years, or the next time there is a Bechet revival in France.
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Author: ghuba
Date: 2005-12-09 23:38
Financial value is what you get for something the day you sell it. Bechet's axe might be worth nothing tomorrow because nobody will buy it, or it could appreciate to $1M if somebody really has to have it.
Regarding Elvis, KCBS, the news station in Los Angeles had a sound byte on the radio a month or two ago, stating the Elvis' estate last year earned $54 million dollars for his heirs. The $30 million or so that came in from the Peanuts dynasty was a distant second.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2005-12-10 14:00
Re: Woody Allen, Tony, several years? ago, we discussed his Albert experiences-concert tour in Europe. Some of it is in his video, as I bot [on EBAY] a copy, a bit of braggadocio[sp??], but I believe a few shots were of his visit to Buffet, possibly to have a "special cl" made for him. Search our archives for those stories. GBK, Help? Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-12-10 18:54
Woody Allen played a Rampone and Cazzani clarinet until about 1995, when he had Buffet make him 2 Albert system clarinets.
As was mentioned before, if you've never seen the movie "Wild Man Blues", where Woody is given a personal tour of the Buffet factory, and falls in love with a metal clarinet in the display case (but is told it's NOT for sale), it's worth watching the movie just for that moment...GBK
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-12-10 20:58
Anyone who has an interest in clarinet should view Wild Man Blues. That's not to say you will like it....just like practicing scales. I am not a Woody Allen fan as regards his movies but he does have a deep respect for clarinet playing. Like I have always maintained, "You don't have to have a good voice to be a good singer." If anything you will appreciate his problem playing one number with a stuffy horn.
Bob Draznik
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