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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-11-01 19:37
This annoys the heck out of me:
When I'm practicing, I'm salivating a bit. Eventually I'm producing gargling sidetones, I then automatically swallow while breathing but continue playing. After a while, I have gulped enough air and feel the urge to burp, just like after a havy meal. This is getting very annoying because it completely interrupts the flow.
How do I cope with this?
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Ben
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2005-11-01 20:58
You should probably purchase a more expensive mouthpiece or barrel. This seems to cure most clarinet related problems.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-11-01 21:04
> You should probably purchase a more expensive mouthpiece or barrel.
You have indeed a point. When I look at these prices I get a very dry mouth in no time. ;-)
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Ben
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-11-01 21:06
Is your swallowing the saliva a direct result of you hearing the gurgling and wanting to prevent it from getting worse?
If so, if you stop the root cause (the gurgling) via whatever method you see fit (a ring of oil around the inside of the tone holes to prevent water from seeping in, routinely swabbing while playing, a trace of oil leading away from the tone holes to guide the saliva, etc. etc.), you will then stop the swallowing of spit/air mixture, and thereby completely stopping the burping. But only if it's directly related to your reaction when hearing your clarinet "gurgle".
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-11-01 21:11
Incidentally, Dave, I don't know where you got that insane idea of buying a new mouthpiece or barrel. I don't think this is the problem at all.
If it's the fault of ANY part of the equipment, it seems to me not to be a product of mouthpiece/barrel, however mostly a product of the type of plating on the keys. What are keys plated in? Silver plating tends to be more susceptible to cause burping than nickel or gold.........
Sheesh. What were you thinking Dave?!
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2005-11-01 21:22
> Is your swallowing the saliva a direct result of you hearing the gurgling and
> wanting to prevent it from getting worse?
The gurgling happens on the reed/mouthpiece (so no tonehole oiling and other engineering required). Tiny bubbles of saliva sit on the reed and cause a buzzing gargling annoying sidetone. I suck at the mpc to free it to restore the normal sound - no problem. But then I swallow /before/ it can happen again, eventually gulping more air than spit.
Maybe the question should read: how to prevent too much saliva?
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Ben
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Author: Dori
Date: 2005-11-01 22:00
Alexi wrote, "Incidentally, Dave, I don't know where you got that insane idea of buying a new mouthpiece or barrel. I don't think this is the problem at all."
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I thought Dave's suggestion was humorous. So often people search for the "perfect" mouthpiece, ligature, reed size or brand, etc that they hope will solve every problem. I didn't think Dave was serious. Just my humble opinion.
Dori (who admits she has been gullible in the past)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2005-11-01 23:05
Dear Ben,
Actually a good question really. I can't explain it, but if I am careless or distracted I get more of this effect of the saliva. Once I get my "focus" back, the problem disappears. I will try to see if I can come up with a real answer soon.
This is NEVER a problem at an audition !!!!!! :-)
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-11-02 00:01
Dori,
I realized it. The second part of my answer to his comment displayed my attempt at furthering his type of humor (or humour, if you prefer!)
Ben,
I remember this being discussed in the past, and one of the solutions is something that I found myself doing, and that is simply to suck in (as you are already) on the mouthpiece. But don't wait until you hear the gurgling of the spit between the mouthpiece and reed, but whenever you have a break in the music. Whenever you get a chance. Sounds like a lot now, but it'll become habit in a while and it'll help prevent this. Much like those people who take off their mouthpiece or mouthpiece/barrel combination and swab their instrument whenever they have an extended break. May sound like a lot of work, but it's a preventative measure that probably became habit after a while.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2005-11-02 00:59
Could it be related to allowing air up around the upper teeth/cheek area? Seems like when I let the embrochure go and let air up there when I blow, there is greater salivation. I need to look at this some more.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Markael
Date: 2005-11-02 01:28
I just learned a valuable lesson.
Never read the clarinet bulletin board while eating supper.
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