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 The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: GBK 
Date:   2005-09-15 03:08

With only one brief discussion of this Spanish made product about 3 years ago, it might again be time to see if anyone has since tried this unusual ligature (or as they call it: "padded tensing ring") It is made for both clarinet and saxophone.

http://www.ff-fortissimo.com/iprimera.html



If nothing else, it makes a nice visual accessory to a clarinet using the recently discussed Valgon Ring http://www3.sympatico.ca/harold.gomez/index.html [wink]

...GBK



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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: RodRubber 
Date:   2005-09-15 05:22

I have tried this, and found it did very little to improve anything, and was impossible to use if switching clarinets. However, did look cool, so its good if ur more into the "show-biz" aspect of clarinet playing. Like, maybe you dance at your auditions while playing.



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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: ron b 
Date:   2005-09-15 06:17

Outfitted with a Valgon and a PTR at a dancing clarinet audition... man, the only thing left is to shoot you out of a canon :[ WHOOOOIE!!! ]


- ron b -

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: OpusII 
Date:   2005-09-15 06:41

I've seen it, but have never had the urge to try it...

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2005-09-15 11:18

Oh those thingies!

I've looked at one in it's presentation box, but it's not for me as my Lawtons already have a very practical built-in vice, plus the fact I don't think it'll last through use - what happens if you need to turn your mouthpiece round a fraction for playing comfort? You'll keep having to take the lig and reed off each and every time.

I think I know someone that might buy it - one of our tenor player has a varied collection of exotic ligatures.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2005-09-15 11:34)

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-09-15 11:20

Was it the Winslow ligature that had this general configuration....thumb screw on top, dimpled pads etc.

Bob Draznik

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2005-09-15 11:32

Oh yeah, the Winslow had what looked like miniature Hydrolastic suspension spheres which could be moved around.

To be honest, I've been using the same Rovner lig since I was 14 (I'm now 33) and it does the job perfectly well, and no chance of the lot coming adrift when taking the mouthpiece off.

I personally can't justify spending in excess of £20 for a cap/ligature combo - that won't make me a better player.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2005-09-15 11:33)

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Alseg 
Date:   2005-09-15 12:04


Looks like a variation on a theme of Francois Loius

An antimatter suspension chamber would work nicely.


Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-





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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: BobD 
Date:   2005-09-15 13:07

Or how about a ferromagnetic metal mouthpiece and a permanent magnet pad? No wires, screws or bands.

Bob Draznik

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2005-09-15 14:31

Check out their instrument stand, which has some very -- uhh -- sexual setup illustrations. http://www.ff-fortissimo.com/iprimera.html

I've tried various ligatures with raised dots -- for example, the Winslow and the original (metal) Portnoy. They haven't worked well, at least for me, and the small bearing areas dig badly into the reeds.

String is still best.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Sylvain 
Date:   2005-09-15 15:14

I have not tried the ligature, but I like the way they presented professional opinion and actual scientific timbre analysis. They do not have such and scuh player endorse the product, a survey of players testing it and a study of the acoustic properties which acually shows very little difference between their lig and a conventional lig...
At least they are honest, they probably won't be in business for very long :)
-S

--
Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Ed 
Date:   2005-09-15 15:53

It didn't do much for my clarinet, but I found I was able to get much better reception on my FM radio!

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2005-09-15 16:58

Thank goodness all these new, arcane clarinet products are coming out with their pseudo-science, to lift us out of our musical doldrums!

Sure beats that tedious practicing...........

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2005-09-15 19:41

Ed,

No chance in borrowing it from you is there? Only I can't get Radio 3 on FM and my Freeview reception gets a bit weak at dusk and that might do the trick.

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: allencole 
Date:   2005-09-16 04:23

With the lig, I'd feel like I was getting my nose too close to a mousetrap or an antenna tuner.

The stand is a very practical design if you are a sit-down player or have a table to put your horn on--even if it does look like it was recycled from a chastity belt.

Allen Cole

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2005-09-16 06:31

And I thought you were meant to keep your horn away from chastity belts.

Is it really wise to stand an alto sax upside down like that?

Condensation is meant to run down the bore, not back up again! This'll only add to water in the palm keys and making the LH main action pearls wet which is exactly what alto and tenor players don't need, as they already suffer enough.

That's why I prefer bari and soprano as condensation isn't that much of a problem on either, it's still there but runs away in a controlled manner.

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Terry Stibal 
Date:   2005-09-16 19:02

The method of removal is what has me worried. ("Hold down the base with one hand while lifting and twisting the instrument with the other. Unless it's at table level, you're just not going to be able to do that while seated.

And, as is the norm for things of this sort, there's no version for the baritone...

leader of Houston's Sounds Of The South Dance Orchestra
info@sotsdo.com

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2005-09-16 19:34

Probably just as well - I'd never consider putting my baritone in anything like that!

The Jiffy stand fitted on mine is the most reliable and sturdy bari stand I've used. I know the bell clamp isn't aesthetically pleasing but I know there's no chance of it falling or being knocked over.

Plus the fact it makes switching between alto (on sling) and bari a doddle, I just tuck the alto under my left arm and tip the bari (still on it's stand) onto two of the three legs and that's a reasonable playing position as long as I'm sitting down (though leaving the crook receiver screw undone helps to get the crook at the right playing angle quickly, and with 'no hands'), and all this within a minimum of two bars rest.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

Post Edited (2005-09-16 21:00)

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2005-09-16 21:25

I remember that ligature, I tried it early this year didn't do much for me, it was fiddly to put together and then to get on the mouthpiece. it made no difference to the sound of my clarinet compared with my rovner.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Jimis4klar 
Date:   2022-02-18 19:39

The two metal plates of this ligature are the same, silver plated in all finishes?(gold, black and silver)

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: johnwesley 
Date:   2022-02-19 19:30

I have no idea what y'all are talking about. None of th.e links are available

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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2022-02-19 20:24

Old thread, old ligature


Here is an example:


https://reverb.com/item/33396759-fortissimo-model-an-04-gold-plated-large-ligature-set-for-bass-clarinet-saxophone






................Paul Aviles



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 Re: The Fortissimo Padded Tensing Ring (Ligature)
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2022-02-23 00:10

johnwesley wrote:

> I have no idea what y'all are talking about. None of th.e
> links are available

17 year old links don't age as gracefully as some wines.

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