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Author: jangjiman
Date: 2005-08-27 03:23
I borrowed a v12 reed from someone because I wanted to try them out. The logo in the back of the reed was exactly the sameas the traditionals. The only difference I noticed was the difference of thickness in the heel. I there a difference in logo or was the reed he gave me just a tradtitional vandoren?
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Author: Iacuras
Date: 2005-08-27 03:33
Nope, he gave you a V12. The only difference between the reeds is the V12 is a little bit thicker.
Steve
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-27 03:34
Steve:
There are a number of physical differences between the V12 and Traditional reeds, besides being "a little bit thicker" (your words)
V12 clarinet reeds are built on a 3.15mm template (.124" - hence the name V12). The V12 tip is 0.10mm (.004")
The traditional clarinet reeds are built on a 2.8mm template (.11"). The traditional tip is 0.085mm (0.0035")
The traditional reeds have a scrape which starts higher towards the tip.
The V12 reeds have a different (flatter) U-shaped scrape zone which starts lower - thus a longer vibrational area...GBK
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Author: jangjiman
Date: 2005-08-27 03:37
ok thanks guys. I tried the v12 strength 3 1/2. They seemed a little soft but I like the tone alot better than the tradtitionals. I normally play on a traditional 4. Maybe that's why, I'm going to buy one pack of v12 41/2's and one pack of gonzalez FOF 4 1/4 reeds.
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Author: Max S-D
Date: 2005-08-27 06:36
The gonzalez FOF are pretty stiff. To make that a fair comparison, I would try 4's instead of 4.25's.
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Author: D
Date: 2005-08-28 09:14
On my comparison chart which is in the back of a catalogue it says that a V12 41/2 is the equivilent of a traditional 31/2 and that a V12 5 is slightly stiffer than a traditional 4. Most inconvenient. If you go to a V12 5 make sure you are not going too hard for your mouthpiece, they all have a range of recommened reed stengths so if it suddenly stops working with a stiffer reed, that might be why.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-28 14:38
D wrote:
> On my comparison chart which is in the back of a catalogue it
> says that a V12 41/2 is the equivilent of a traditional 31/2
> and that a V12 5 is slightly stiffer than a traditional 4.
No.
Actually, V12 #4 1/2 reeds are about the same as Traditional #4, and V12 #5 is about the same as Traditional #5.
Over the years Vandoren has issued their own reed comparison charts.
Here are an older and a more recent one. They differ slightly:
http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/download.html/1,332/Reed%20Strength%20Charts.JPG ...GBK
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Author: psychotic lil clarinet girl (don't as
Date: 2005-08-28 16:51
EW... You BORROWED a reed. Are you planning to give it back?!
lol. j/k...
I like the traditionals better. The V12 just doesn't sound as good with me. It may work for other people though. It just depends what your embouchere is set for.
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-08-28 19:17
Also, the V12 box says that they are made for long facing mouthpieces. That's why they work well with my M15.
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Author: jangjiman
Date: 2005-08-28 23:38
I use three mouthpieces. A Pomarico saphire B, Vandoren B45, fobes SF 4L
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2005-08-29 12:56
I play Vandoren V12 and traditional. Mostly V12 strength 3 and sometimes traditionals strength 2.5 or 3 (depends on the weather). I would put the V12 somewhere between the trads 2.5 and 3. If you usually play traditionals 4 then try both V12 4 and 4.5.
About Gonzalez I can only say that from my experience they get much softer quickly, and then they are stable for a long while. In a box of Gonzalez 2.75 I can get 10 reeds to be great right out of the box, but after about one day they all become too soft. I've tried Gonzalez 3 which is just slightly too hard from the box and after a day they also were slightly too soft. Maybe the Gonzalez cane is more problematic with the weather in my country, because I don't know why this happened, it's very strange.
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