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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-04 03:47
I'm very pleased to say that I just switched to double lip 2 minutes ago. I find articulation much cleaner (easier blowing). Anyone experienced a benefit from embouchure change?
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Author: larryb
Date: 2005-08-04 03:55
wait a second - you made this life altering change two minutes ago and then stopped practicing to post a message about it? How post-modern can you get?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-08-04 03:57
I just switched to decaf 2 minutes ago.
Anyone experienced a benefit from this change? ...GBK
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Author: hans
Date: 2005-08-04 15:44
I've always played double lip, to avoid the vibration.
If lumberjacks can lose fingers from the vibration of their chain saws (I read it in a book), what do clarinet players risk losing from the vibration from their mouthpieces?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-08-04 16:34
Sorry, but I laffed out loud at this exchange. Thanks. But seriously, having learned double lip from the start I never changed. Just have a "thing" about putting my teeth on a mouthpiece. However, on occasion I do, when my embochure is tired. Yeh, I use mp patches.
Bob Draznik
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2005-08-04 16:59
Black Mouthpiece patches get completely rid of the vibration..........
Double lip is good if you are biting too hard as it prevents that from occuring due to pain.
I started playing off to the side (the far right side, not the left!!!!!!!!!!) as the ligature screws kept getting in the way of the TV
;)
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-04 17:41
I wasn't planning to switch to it but I was bored so I just felt like trying it because my teacher says that people claim that double-lipping is better than single.
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Author: stevensfo
Date: 2005-08-04 18:10
>>AHA
Tony Pay masquerading as a bflatclarinetist!
Bob Phillips
Sandpoint, ID
Just as long as bflatclarinetist isn't a wheelwright.
Who double lips.
Who writes about it.
Steve
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2005-08-04 20:12
I remember going to Robert Scott for some mouthpiece adjustment as well as oboe related stuff. He picked up the clarinet and played with double lip. Well he was nothing to write home about in most of the clarinet range but............the altissimo stuff was great. ! Maybe this is how Artie Shaw sounded so good on the high notes! John
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: hans
Date: 2005-08-04 21:56
Arnoldstang,
Artie Shaw played single lip. I read it in a book.
Regards,
Hans
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2005-08-04 23:40
Quote:
I wasn't planning to switch to it but I was bored so I just felt like trying it because my teacher says that people claim that double-lipping is better than single.
Don't let 'em get to you. If you tried it, and your initial impressions were pretty good, give it a good run. You may find down the road a few months you wanna switch back or may find that you LOVE it.
I for one say congrats on giving it a shot at least. There are many who don't even do that. So try it for a while and see if you continue liking it.
Alexi - who tried it for a while, but decided to stick to single lip with an EXTREMELY thick mouthpiece patch for comfort.
US Army Japan Band
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-05 00:10
Well I change my mind, I think my mind is trying to believe that it's better but to me I decided to try single lip again and I sounded the same as before except with double lip my bottom teeth hurt.
My mind wants to believe that it's better I guess, I'll go back to the old.
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2005-08-05 00:26
Benny Goodman switch from single to double lip under the guidance of Reginald Kell. Evidently, a difficult transition for Goodman; the new embouchure inhibited his playing until he settled into it.
Bob Phillips
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2005-08-05 01:23
Keep in mind that the double-lip is an excellent remedial method even if you decide to stay with single. If you use it from time to time you'll be reminded of which muscles you AREN'T using otherwise but should. After reading about and experiencing the benefits, I'm using this method with my students. It's an awful lot easier than trying to explain how to hold the chin and form the lips and totally confusing them in the process.
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Author: RodRubber
Date: 2005-08-06 03:04
Is this like double lips anonymous or something?
Hi, Im Rod_Rubber, and Im a double lipper! I been double lipping since the seventh grade. I guess you could say im addicted or something. It was that messager solo de concours, my first double lip experience, and after that i was hooked. Eventhough some teachers wanted to send me to re-hab, i just couldn't kick that habit. Maybe i need an intervention.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-08-06 14:53
I'm beginning to think that single lip is a relatively new( post WWII) phenomenon because all the clarinet players in my school bands( 40s) played double lip. If some kid had put his teeth on the mp everybody would have thought he had flipped his lid. Perhaps single lip is from the New Math School . Anyone know the real scoop?
Bob Draznik
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-06 16:18
That's interesting, my natural intention when I first put a mouthpiece in my mouth was the single lip way. That's my band director advised us.
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Author: hans
Date: 2005-08-06 22:39
BobD,
My Artie Shaw Clarinet Method book was published in 1941. In it, Artie advocates a single lip embouchure. Maybe Artie was ahead of his time
When I started playing, in 1959, my teacher showed me only double lip and didn't even mention a single lip alternative. A few years later, I met a clarinet player who had studied under a different teacher and I was surprised at the damage he had done to his mouthpiece by putting his teeth on it.
Another advantage of double lip (besides less damage to the mouthpiece), is that it makes a switch to oboe easier, IMO.
Regards,
Hans
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-08-06 22:46
I play single lip but it's funny because I alot of people tend to bite their mouthpiece but I don't even bite my mouthpiece, in fact I'm not even sure if I've even layed a tooth non-intentially on it!
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