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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-12 19:54
If anybody is interested, I just made me a beautiful cherrywood clarinet stand from a: "Standing Towel Holder," that you can buy in the store . You have to type in your zip code in the company's web-site that makes the towel stand, which is: www.lipperinternational.com to find a store that sells their products.But first you have to click on "pantryware when you get to the web-site, and then click on, "cherry collection."
In order to make the clarinet stand you are going to have to saw the cherrywood pole that the paper towel roll fits into...You have to saw the pole just below the clarinet bell's slot. Then you are going to have to drill a hole in the center of the pole so you can fit the small cherrywood pole that is used as a retaining post to hold the paperroll tight....Both of the cherrywood poles come with a screw fitted into their ends.
The base of the standing towel holder is much bigger than the clarinet stand that is made for clarinets, which makes this make-shift one more preferable by far.
Have a happy time with this and let me know how you make out.
Post Edited (2005-07-12 20:21)
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-07-12 21:08
Mine was not as elegant. I saw a "mini" plumber's helper at Ace, cut the handle a bit shorter and glued the rubber edge to a piece of board. The rubber is easy on the bell. I use mine strictly at home.....no guts.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-12 21:58
Your make-shift clarinet stand almost sounds like a: "toilet bowl plunger," which , when I think of it, might just work, providing the wooden stick attached to the rubber plunger were small enough to fit through the clarinet.
But the "Standing Towel Holder," has two poles. The first one fits into the clarinet's bell but will not go further into the clarinet because of the smaller bore hole. But the towel holder has a smaller pole that will fit into the rest of your clarinet when you have screwed this smaller pole into the top of the larger one.
It's as though the "Standing Towel Holder," was made with this idea in mind: "to be a clarinet stand," with a little bit of adjusting know-how.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2005-07-13 11:39
I used the rubber cup from a toilet plunger to turn a collapsible saxophone stand (adjustable for tenor or alto sax) into an alto clarinet stand. Got the idea from a very nice Konig & Meyer Bass Clarinet and Bassoon Stand that I bought for my contra-alto, at ClarinetFest in 2004. Konig & Meyer doesn't make a model for alto clarinet, and neither does anybody else, as far as I can find out; but that black rubber cup for the bell on the big stand sure looked familiar.... Bought a toilet plunger, cut off most of the handle (leaving a stump), bent an extra turn in a couple of L-brackets, drilled four holes through metal and one through the stump left from the handle, added some bolts--and the alto's got itself a collapsible stand with soft support under the bell.
Lelia
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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-13 16:24
I wish I could see your toilet plunger stand. Maybe we could go into business together: you making your stand and I making mine.
But you gave me another idea: the wooden stand's base could use some sort of rubber pad to protect the bell. But since most clarinet bell's have a metal ring at the opening, the rubber pad would protect the wooden stand from the metal ring I guess.
How wide is your toilet plunger's base? My wooden base is about 7 inches wide.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2005-07-13 20:00
The inside opening is 4-3/4 inches in diameter. It was closer to 5 inches, but all around the inside edge was a thin rim that I pared off and sanded smooth. Btw, this stand cost me US $2.49 for the plunger at a discount store, and $5 for the used sax stand at a yard sale. I already had a lot of bolts and L-brackets (I'm a semi-retired stained glass designer-builder) and can't remember what I paid for them, but it wasn't much. Anyhow, the whole shebang cost less than $10.
For the flat rim of a Bb clarinet, I wonder if a piece of old inner tube might be easier to work with, since the inside of the toilet plunger is cup-shaped. A piece of inner tube would glue down flat. Not sure how easy it is to find inner tube any more, though. Tires seem to have improved; or maybe it's just that re-treads don't pass vehicle inspections any more. When my husband used to make fountain pens in old-fashioned styles, he found a convenient source of black hard rubber free of charge, alongside any stretch of bad road, where trucks shed strips off their re-tread tires. I remember in the bad old days we used to pick up pieces of inner tube, as well, from car re-tread blow-outs (we used inner tube pieces to custom-cut rubber washers for all sorts of stuff), but maybe today the junk yard would be the place to look.
Lelia
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Author: hartt
Date: 2005-07-13 20:09
take five wrote:
"The base of the standing towel holder is much bigger than the clarinet stand that is made for clarinets, which makes this make-shift one more preferable by far".
Bigger base is not necessarily better...........it's the weight.....being the center of gravilty (and its dispersement) .............and the shape.
Non steel base stands such as the plastic fold outs or the plastic with 3 self contained screw in/out steel legs logically would offer more stability than a lightweight round piece of wood.
I witnessed (saw it happening like in slow motion) a clarinet take a dive on a oak stage floor. It was sitting atop a 6" or so wooden base with screw in peg. A lady walked between chairs and her dress brushed up against the clarinet.
The mouthpiece was history and the impact / bounces, cracked the bbl, UJ and UJ lower tenon.
Since I don't play Russian roulette with my clarinets, I use metal base stands and have altered one screw in peg to fit an Eb . Thus, it also holds my C and Bb.
BTW...........to trim down the thickness of a peg to fit a Eb, etc. one does not need a lathe. Simply chuck the peg's threaded screw in a drill and hold a file/rasp against the contoured wood shaft. Finish off with sand paper and spray paint it black.
now go practice
regards
dennis
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Author: GBK
Date: 2005-07-13 20:18
All very interesting and mildly ingenious, but putting a carefully tweaked $2000 clarinet with a custom mouthpiece on a home-made, lightweight stand? Not me...
2 words: Blayman stands
Rock solid and virtually topple proof.
In 35+ years I've never seen a clarinet go over when on a Blayman stand.
Very cheap insurance...GBK
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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-13 23:20
Thanks for the advice...I think I will attach on the bottom of my wooden base a 10lb barbell plate to act as ballast...
And as far as a rubber inner tube acting as a pad for the bell, I think a few pieces of unhooked "velcro," ought to be just fine....And by the way...."velcro," works better than cork on the tenons, and you don't need to use grease. I use the velcro with the adhesive backing.
I will post this info on the "velcro instead of cork" on another thread for others to see.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-07-13 23:48
"Your make-shift clarinet stand almost sounds like a: "toilet bowl plunger"
"Plumber's Helper" is what us old timers call toilet plungers.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Asheeka
Date: 2005-07-14 15:47
i think i'll try your standing towel holder stand, i think it will work well. I need a stand because i don't even have one! and my mom won't buy me one!
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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-14 16:25
I hope you don't use your mother's towel holder stand to make your clarinet stand...She may get so mad if you do that she might just take away your clarinet....And the price of the towel stand is about double the price of the least expensive clarinet stand that folds out. So are you sure you want to spend the money?
Post Edited (2005-07-14 16:26)
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Author: Asheeka
Date: 2005-07-14 16:54
hey,
We have a standing towel holder at home that we are not using, so i am gonna use that one!
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Author: Take Five
Date: 2005-07-14 19:09
You had better let your father make it...You need a saw and a drill, so be careful....Good luck.
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