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Author: contragirl
Date: 2005-05-23 21:51
It's weird. I could sit down in my lesson and have my teacher say "here is a minor scale" and I couldn't play it. But if I sit down by myself, I could learn it without feeling the pressure. I think this is the reason I did so well in HS: I would sit down and practice without the stress of having the teacher there forcing me to do it. Then when I got to college, I felt so stressed to do things like scales, that I hated to do them. Now I feel that, since I will have plenty of time, I can sit down and go over my scales and such, and be able to do it without feeling stressed out about it. (This all goes for etudes and such too)
Does anyone else feel this way? Like they would rather learn the things on their own?
Now that I'm all graduated college, I will enjoy practicing on my own again, for no reason. Then I think I will be more prepared to go back to lessons after having a break. It's like a time of finding oneself. lol
--Contragirl
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2005-05-23 22:02
CG,
Depends on your ultimate goal in music, I suppose. I can't speak for professional "classical" performers, as I ain't one; but other than a few years of private lessons on Bb clarinet in grade and junior high schools, I'm completely self-taught on all the other sizes of clarinet, plus saxes, flute and oboe, and I'm reasonably proficient (though in no danger of being invited to play with any major symphony). So take lessons if you really want to --- or stumble along on your own if it's more comfortable (it's certainly cheaper!).
Hope you find yourself -- I stopped looking for MYself years ago and just went ahead with living my life............
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Author: susieray
Date: 2005-05-23 22:11
"Hope you find yourself -- I stopped looking for MYself years ago and just went ahead with living my life............"
I agree with Dave on that one! ![[happy]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley12.gif)
sue
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Author: RosewoodClarinet
Date: 2005-05-23 23:02
Contragirl,
Yes, the exact same thing happens to me. One day, I couldn't play G major arpeggio at the masterclass.......I did not why this happened. I couldn't count 4/4 meter in wind ensemble rehearsal.....When I feel under pressure, these things happen.
Thing I found is that I was NOT 100% on these "spots." I was not clear about the fingering of the arpeggio, so fingers got sloppy. Or, my brain could not count four beats.......even though I can do all kinds of things when I am alone, these mistakes happens.
Only thing is to practice to master a good playing even at any circumstances. This is so important.
I will keep practicing slowly if I were you......until I come up with some hints.
Happy Practicing,
RosewoodClarinet
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Author: ron b
Date: 2005-05-23 23:07
Contra poses some good questions:
"Does anyone else feel this way? Like they would rather learn the things on their own?"
Sure. You make choices every day, all day, all on your own. What's so different about this one?
- r![[cool]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/cool.gif) n b -
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Author: bflatclarinetist
Date: 2005-05-24 01:37
Nope..I'd rather have a teacher. My teacher immediately tells me when a passage is to fast or something like that and valuable advice.
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Author: luckyclarinettoenla
Date: 2005-05-24 14:06
The goal of any teacher should be that the student learn to teach themselves. At least that's what my teacher did with me. Otherwise, I'd have to depend on a teacher every time I picked up a new piece of music or tried something different.
Lucky
Never fool yourself into believing that today's 'good enough' will do tomorrow!
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Author: BobD
Date: 2005-05-24 20:32
There's advantages and dis both ways. It sounds like you just need a break from studying so hard. Use the summer to recharge your batteries and then decide what to do.
Bob Draznik
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Author: Clarinetgirl06
Date: 2005-05-24 21:10
In my lessons, my teacher has me teach myself first, and then she'll go back and help me. Or, I will just teach myself because I feel like it. I feel great when I can teach myself something and accomplish it with great success. For All-State music, I usually teach myself the music over the summer and then I have about 3-4 lessons with my teacher to polish it and correct any mistakes and then off I go to tryouts! I like it this way... I doesn't put pressure on my to do the music a certain way... I can change it up however I feel like it! But, having a teacher is very beneficial and I'm glad I have a great teacher!
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Author: Dano
Date: 2005-05-25 02:51
I think that teachers give you the fundimentals and then it is up to you to "teach yourself". That is how I have always experienced it. Even in the military it was like that. Sometimes I would not catch on to what was being taught until months later when I was actually doing it without having to think about it. That is when I realized that my teacher taught me. When I was going through the teaching part, I swore I would never be able to get it right. When I had to "do or die" I realized that it had been taught. But I never could do what I was taught just to show my teacher. With clarinet or music in general, "doing" is so much more of a "teacher" than being told how to do it. When you sit down by yourself I think you "do" more than with a teacher next to you. Of course a teacher will let you know if you are "doing" it right.
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Author: SueSmith
Date: 2005-05-25 03:17
Honestly, the biggest learning tool is my mini-disk. Recording myself...playing it back...
Sometimes in a lesson, you just don't hear "it". Or in my case, teacher had me working on A, B, C, D...all at the same time...and none of it would get done proficiently. You go home...work on it...and its still not correct but you haven't a clue WHAT is not right.
I realized in my early 20's that everyone learns at their own personal velocity. Baermann 3 and my mini-disk...my recordings of stellar clarinetists...and other musicians (Doriot Dwyer, Anne Sophie Mutter, Lynn Harrel, DuPre, etc.) Save myself some $80 a week...payback those student loans! But all in all...I am playing so much better at this stage in life. I've taken all the relevant advice given to me over the course of 15 years of lessons...but you get to the point where you have to cut the cord.
You are smarter than you believe and if you have a good ear...you CAN figure it out for yourself.
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2005-05-25 13:06
When I was a kid my parents hired a teacher to teach me about music and how to play an instrument. Today I have a teacher primarily for motivation. As long as I keep paying him I'll keep practicing 2 to 4 hours a day in order to avoid embarrassing myself. I always leave my lessons with new and useful bits of information so will likely continue until they cart me or him off to the nursing home.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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