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Author: donald
Date: 2005-04-29 05:59
hello
anyone out there have much experience with the Chalumeau from the German company Moeck, or can reccomend someone who may be able to help? (Peter Cigleris?)
.....what i need to know is how the mouthpiece that they supply with the Alto Chalumeau compares with a modern German system E flat mouthpiece. I already know that the standard "Boehm System" E flat mouthpiece has a larger bore, making the overall pitch lower, but the short tube notes flat. Does the German System mouthpiece have a smaller bore?
i am (in this case) not so concerned with issues of "historical accuracy" as the mouthpiece that came from Moeck is certainly not a precise reproduction.
any useful advice re bore of D-system mouthpiece, or a contact who may know about this would be great.
thanks
donald
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Author: contragirl
Date: 2005-04-29 07:17
Steve Fox in Canadia. He's my "fiance." [lol] He makes Chalumeaus. He would have mpcs, I would think.
The experience I had with messing with one, is that it is a lil longer than an Eb mpc and more narrow. Then you tie the little string around it to hold on dee reed.
--CG
Remember the Chalumeau.
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Author: donald
Date: 2005-05-06 05:37
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no Steven Fox doesn't make Chalumeax (at least not according to the email he sent me this afternoon). i wish he did- the Moeck instruments are awful (if anyone decides to take up Chalumeax, check out Brian Ackermann)
donald
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-05-06 08:13
"Moeck instruments are awful" - I'm a bit surprised, their recorders are well respected. Are you sure it's Moeck's fault, or are ALL chalumeaux awful?!
Brian Ackerman's website says he isn't taking new orders: but worth asking him all the same.
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Author: donald
Date: 2005-05-06 09:01
ok, that was perhaps a rash generalisation- but i am one of THREE players i know who have purchased one or more of these instruments and been less than impressed (and i'm the least experienced in period performance of the three of us....).
Three out of three doesn't look like good statistics to me.....
but you are correct in saying the recorders are good.
donald
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Author: David Peacham
Date: 2005-05-06 09:18
Donald, I understood that you were criticising the Moeck chalumeaux, not the other instruments they make.
But I'd still be interested to know whether you are saying:
1) Moeck chalumeaux play less well than other replica chalumeaux. (Which does not necessarily make them less authentic - maybe the authentic ones were pigs to play.)
2) Moeck chalumeaux do not bear much resemblance to authentic chalumeaux. (Which does not necessarily mean that they are bad instruments - a top-quality modern violin makes a poor substitute for a baroque violin.)
3) Something else?
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2005-05-06 16:28
Hi Donald
I must say that the Moeck instruments are not great instruments. I inquired a few years ago now about a soprano and they would only do them in 'modern' pitch which is not good when everyone else isn't making any and you need A-415. The best soprano i've played is a Ackermann replica which i used to perform the Fasch Concerto whilst still at College, have you tried him? If I remember the mouthpiece was much smaller than a Eb and I also remember spending half a day in the college coffee bar getting strange looks from everyone trying to get some reeds going. I would imagine that the alto mouthpiece would be slightly smaller than a D-system Eb but I can't be certain as i've only the exprience with the soprano. I could ask either Colin Lawson or Michael Harris cause they both did the Telemann double for alto and tenor a good few years ago, one thing is certain that the bore and length of the mouthpiece need to be just right as it puts the already unequal temperament completley out.
sorry I can't be more helpful
Peter Cigleris
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