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Author: kdk
Date: 2013-02-21 18:42
I just opened a new box of V12 Alto Sax reeds I got in today's mail. Instead of the usual circular packed across the top, there's a new one (to me) about the authenticity coding on both the box and one each individual reed. I have already read here about counterfeit Vandoren reeds' having hit the market, but this is twist I hadn't expected. Are all the reeds - clarinet and sax - being coded in this way? The authentication site requires an email address - is this just a way to compile an email list, or are they really uniquely coding everything that leaves the factory?
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-02-21 18:55
Hmmmm,
I just opened a new box of 46 Rue Lepic. There is only a bar code on the back of the box and the back of each individual reed wrapper - possibly just a code number for the style, maybe lot but nothing like what you describe.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2013-02-21 20:42
They put serial numbers on the reeds for a couple months as I recall. I once called with a reed which had split down the middle. I had the serial number of the reed. Apparently the serial number gives them no real information, because they wanted each reed from the box and the box itself in order to "look into the problem". You see, I had already mixed the reeds with the 20 others I opened at the time. I couldn't return them to get a new replacement box... They stopped stamping them with serial number. Probably because they served no real purpose (my experience leads me to believable).
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Author: Micke Isotalo ★2017
Date: 2013-02-21 21:03
As I understand, the main purpose of the code is that by it the customer can verify (through Vandorens website) that he's got real Vandorens. It probably also makes things a little bit more complicated for the makers of counterfeit reeds.
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2013-02-21 23:00
What's the counterfeit business? Surely this isn't a problem in the states?
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Author: Bill
Date: 2013-02-23 14:46
I had somebody pass me a counterfeit box of "VANDORAN" reeds. But they sound good on my counterfeit "CASPER" mouthpiece.
Bill Fogle
Ellsworth, Maine
(formerly Washington, DC)
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2013-02-23 16:26
Fake Vandorens...or ".VorDanens" or whatever is NOT a new thing.
I remember Joseph Gigliotti fuming over a purple box that someone brought to him. It was on his Comly St. desk, next to his reed rush and flat black glass reed working surface;
"These are counterfeits!! Look at these......no cut here (indicating lack of a file cut across the reed) and they are smooth like glass (indicating that reed was sandpapered by machine on the upper surface). "
I left out the accent, but he was ready to blow a gasket.
That was in the mid 1960s. So the counterfeiting has been going on a long time.
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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