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 Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2013-05-10 18:26

Hi everyone,
I found an old simple system clarinet (Albert system? I'm not completely sure of the difference) at a second hand store yesterday. The wood's in good condition and there are no major problems that I can find, so I'm going to have a go at fixing it myself! The only thing I'm not sure about is what brand it is: there are no markings on the body except a stamp of "Bb" "LP" on each joint, but the barrel and bell are stamped differently. The barrel, as you can see in the pictures, is Martin Freres and is unfortunately badly cracked, but the bell is stamped:
V. KOHLERT SONS
MAKERS
GRASLITZ
AUSTRIA

Below that, there are interlocking medallions which say Chicago, Paris and London, then another stamp of Bb, then a serial number 2924.

I'm hoping that it's a Kohlert instead of Martin Freres, because the barrel is cracked through to the bore and I think unusable. If anyone can tell from the keywork and maybe give me an idea as to the age, it would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
Anna

Edit: attachments didn't work; I'll try again I guess



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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2013-05-10 18:32

Here's hoping this works... [right]

Edit: Still no pictures. Suggestions?



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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2013-05-10 18:45

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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: MichaelW 
Date:   2013-05-10 18:49

"Graslitz Austria" means that at least the bell was made not later than 1918, for after the end of WW I Graslitz belonged to (then) Czecho- Slowakia and was renamed Kraslice.



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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: Curinfinwe 
Date:   2013-05-11 00:22

Thanks. Is anyone able to identify the keywork as either Kohlert or Martin Freres?

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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2013-05-11 11:59

"LP" is (hopefully) "low pitch", ie A=440

Steve Ocone


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 Re: Simple system clarinet- Kohlert?
Author: chris moffatt 
Date:   2013-05-11 15:11

Looking at the keywork, particularly the register and C#/G# keys and lack of rollers, I'm inclined to think it's french rather than a Kohlert. OTOH there's nothing to identify a specific maker or origin that I can see. The bell and barrel markings indicate probable dates of early C20 with the barrel possibly being from as late as the 1920's - IMHO (could easily be wrong). There's nothing to say that the top and bottom stacks are either Kohlert or Martin Freres.

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