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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2004-03-15 06:07
Ok so here's the story: It's concert time, and I'm principle oboe, warmed up and all, and the concertmaster signals for the tuning note. It sounds like the "A" I always play, the intonation was fine, etc.
Out of habit I don't use a tuner to tune, because, not to sound pompous, but I have perfect pitch, so to that extent I can tell if I'm in tune or not.
Now to the point: my tuner-less tuning apparently really bothered the principal clarinet who insisted that I was 30 cents sharp and that he couldn't push in anymore. He even spoke to the conductor about it, because I suppose it was "that" bad. It's really strange though, because everyone else was able to tune properly, and I had no complaints from the conductor.
In any case...what do you guys do with colleagues who are ever so apt to point out mistakes in others (even if they don't exist!) but make plenty of mistakes themselves? Doesn't it bother you?
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Author: JfW
Date: 2004-03-15 14:53
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Out of habit I don't use a tuner to tune, because, not to sound pompous, but I have perfect pitch, so to that extent I can tell if I'm in tune or not.
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No offense, but isn't there a lot of variables that go into the ear's/brain's interperetation of 'pitch'?
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In any case...what do you guys do with colleagues who are ever so apt to point out mistakes in others (even if they don't exist!) but make plenty of mistakes themselves? Doesn't it bother you?
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Just like in anything having to do with office politics. Be prepared with proof when the accusations fly. In your case, you could have solved the problem with a digital tuner, one way or the other.
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Author: Eric B.
Date: 2004-03-17 00:59
I know what u mean I to know exactly what my sax sounds like when it is in perfect pitch and i get perfect pitch each time the teacher tunes me w/ a tuner. I'm not trying to start an argument but i think JFW might be a little jealous that u said u have perfect pitch. People just don't like when others know that they are good and they admitt it i have jealous band members even my band teacher wasn't treating me fair. She gave me 5th chair just because i was one point off on the score from the person who got 1st chair.I challenged him and got 1st chair like i was supposed to. So as long as u know u r good what other people say doesn't matter.
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Author: Mazz
Date: 2004-03-22 20:52
what if perhaps u were wrong?? I know the oboe in our orchestra is almost always bang on, she's amazing, but one day we took a tuner (as we always do as its imporant in one of the pieces we r doing at the moment) she was actually out (much to our shock) yeah maybe you were right but you were wrong to just jump to the conclusion, as u tune the whole orchestra u should make sure (not jst by ear) that you are in tune.
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Author: Jess Cusumano
Date: 2004-03-23 05:17
Not wanting to sound pompous but you never tune to a wind instument every member should tune to the Piano as it is the only instrument that cannot be tuned quickly buy the player. Electrical tuners are accurate but i dont trust a macheine to do a job my ears can. Listnen to the the piano playing the concert note and tune to that. Perfect pitch is an extremly rare gift. And no offence to d-oboe but it is not something to brag about and rub in ppls faces. Im lead Alto and Lead Bari Sax player in our Stage band and we tune to the grand piano. if your calrinet dude has a problem talk it through with them and tune to each other but yeah my main rule is NEVER tune to a Wind Instrument
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Author: ~Heather ~
Date: 2004-03-23 21:14
Also if the clarinet had a tuner right in front of her, then you were wrong, plain and simple as that.
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Author: Lee
Date: 2004-03-24 03:35
Where were you tuning? (On stage = nervious/bright lights= sharp)
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Author: Couer
Date: 2004-03-26 02:58
I play bassoon and sax, and well clarinet, so I know that playing a double reed instrument is alot different than playing a single reed instrument. If he's in the clarinet section, then it's not really any of his buisness is it? Why is the clarinet tuning to the oboe? shouldn't he be tuning to the basses or trombones or other lower brass instruments? The conductor would have been able to hear your sound and would have said if you were off.
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Author: Couer
Date: 2004-03-26 03:01
opps my friend just informed me that other orchestras except ours tune to the oboe. i feel really dumb now. but even if you were "sharp" he should just tune to you and shut up!
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