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 help me to identify clarinet & key system
Author: Tony Balm 
Date:   2000-02-14 04:12

I have a clarinet that was given to me many many years ago that I am after
some info on please.

It is made of WOOD not plastic
It is French ???
The markings on it are as follows
Barrel: 4 32
Upper joint: COUESNON PARIS
Lower Joint:
Bell: UNIVERSELLE
EXPOSITION DE PARIS
1901


HORS CONCOURS
MEMBRE DU JURY

COUESNON
O O
Oc

A PARIS

The keys are not the same as a modern clarinet,
The top joint has three finger holes and a total of 8 levers
The lower joint has 3 finger holes in different positions to the modern ones
and has 5 levers.

Can you shed any light on what instrument this is?

Thanks
Tony Balm
balm@pipeline.com.au




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 RE: help me to identify clarinet & key system
Author: Eoin 
Date:   2000-02-14 07:11

I presume your top joint actually has a thumb hole as well as three finger holes!

If you look at my web site:

http://gofree.indigo.ie/~jonmca/clarinet1.html

you will find simple instructions for identifying the fingering system of your clarinet. These are not necessarily complete, but should allow you to figure out how to play it. The best would be if you could put a photo of it somewhere, then post a link to it here and we'll have a look at it.

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 RE: help me to identify clarinet & key system
Author: Tony Balm 
Date:   2000-02-14 09:45

To better hel identify the clarinet, I have loaded a picture of it onto the net at:
http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/balm/1clarinet.jpg




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 RE: help me to identify clarinet & key system
Author: Eoin 
Date:   2000-02-14 11:14

This clarinet uses the Baermann Fingering system. This is identical as far as the player is concerned to the Albert system. This clarinet would be described as an Albert system clarinet in America and as a Simple System clarinet in England.

You can find a fingering chart for it at:

http://gofree.indigo.ie/~jonmca/clarinet2.html

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 RE: help me to identify clarinet & key system
Author: Andrea 
Date:   2000-06-20 00:02

Beautiful instrument indeed, Tony!
indeed it might be a presentation clarinet for Couesnon
to show off their craftmanship at an exhibition.
At the time Couesnon was better known for their
brasswind instruments, inherited from the Gautrot company,
and this appears as fine instrument. The words printed on it mean 'out of challenge'. It features a german-style
speaker key, as on the modern Oehler clarinet, a plate
for supporting left first finger when playng in the high
register, rollers on the little fingers keys, patent C#
as in the Albert clarinet, double Eb key, two side keys
(one for C, the other for trills over the 'break', F#
correcting device (the rings on the lower joint), and a
single F key. In other words, pue Baermann. Eoin guessed
just right. Unfortunately I cannot identify the barrel
gauge, for the digits there do not match the modern
measure imprinting system, that is usually expressed
in millimeters. I only hope that you are in possession
of its original mouthpiece, that would allow you do determine its authentic pitch. You're lucky anyway!
Best regards
Andrea

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