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Author: Ven
Date: 2005-05-25 11:00
Guys, I thought that we might have some fun, lets all state what brand oru sax is and how much it cost. My <strike>favorite</strike><u><strong>only</u></strong> one is a Yamaha $1,200 sax and I am <font face="vivaldi"font size=7>perfectly happy with it.</font>
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Author: Tiaesha Thomas
Date: 2005-05-25 16:18
i'm trying to learn how to play the tenor sax by myself over the summer break, and i was wondering if u could give me some tips and locates some very good teaching and learning wb sites, and i want to learn everything in a 5 week period
Thank u very much
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Author: Ven
Date: 2005-05-25 17:16
Well that <strong>WOULD</strong> be a challenge but it is possible, the first thing you should do is learn the fingering chart <sub><font size=2>(it can be found here)</sub></font> and then try to make sense of notes on simple songs E.X. ode to joy, jingle bells, mary had a little lamb, so on... as for teaching websites, a VERY popular saying: search engines do it best.
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Author: Theboy_2
Date: 2005-05-25 21:52
learnign by yourself can only get you so far. websites can give you written informnation, and it's up to you for interpretation. a private instructor can interpret for you and give you explinations to any of your questions. they will also help curb any bad habits that you may develope. hope this helps.
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Author: Ven
Date: 2005-05-25 22:58
Sorrrrry for the horrible spelling as well....
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Author: SaXyGuRl
Date: 2005-05-26 01:46
Teaching your self is the way to go. That way you don’t have some other person telling you how to think. I'm in the 9th grad and 1st chair in the top band, and I have never had a privet lesson in my life. All you need is the will power, and u can do what ever you want. So to whomever it was that said that teaching your self can only get u so far. I have one thing to say to them. You’re wrong.well atleast i think so
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Author: Ven
Date: 2005-05-26 10:53
I am in 7th and I am the top chair, see with private lessons you can achieve anything.
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Author: Musical Lottie
Date: 2005-05-26 13:32
saxyGurl - honest, teaching youself you can only go so far. Mehaps you're more naturally talented than others, but you will find a time, if you keep going, when you get stuck and can no longer progress. I've found that with oboe and piano so far, and am dreading when it comes with the cello.
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Author: Ven
Date: 2005-05-26 16:43
<Face font="vivaldi Size=7>MEHAPS THAT SHE HAS MORE TALENT THEN ME</Font>
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Author: TorusTubarius
Date: 2005-05-26 17:31
I have to disagree as well Saxygurl. It really depends on how far you want to go. I don't doubt that you can be top chair in your high school band with no private lessons, but if you were trying for a professional job or something, you might be singing a different tune (or playing one, I guess).
I'm really of the opinion that learning an instrument by yourself is dangerous because you inevitably end up acquiring bad habits that will crop up and be difficult to eradicate as your playing advances. It's best to have a private teacher there to keep you on the right track so that you don't acquire any deleterious habits in the first place. If all you're aspiring to is being the top chair in a high school band, then these bad habits may never interfere because what will be required of you in that band will never reach a high enough level. But eventually you will have a piece of music in front of you that will draw out the limitations of your self-taught playing, and you will need the guidance of someone more experienced to work you through it. Trust me, it will happen.
What I'm saying is, it's important to keep your playing in perspective. A lot of young players who think they are hot stuff in high school go on to the larger musical world only to discover they aren't as hot as they thought. Everyone, and I mean <i>everyone</i> can improve, and recognizing where you are in your playing relative to the larger musical scene can be a humbling experience. However it can also be a driving force which leads you to practice that much harder and conscientiously.
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Author: SaXyGuRl
Date: 2005-06-02 08:35
Ok people this is going to be a little on the contradicting side. I know that lessons are gr8 and all; I have many friends that take them,and they are all 10 times better at what they play now from when they started taking them. So it isn't that they don’t work, I know they do. It is just that I have my own way of thinking, and anyone I have never talked to someone that thinks like me when it comes to playing music. So maybe I will take lessons when I can find someone I don’t completely clash w/. hey who knows I might like them, but I’m kind of a hard a$$ and don’t like much change.... So i guess we will see what will happen, for now im just going to keep w/ my own minde seting and say i dont like them and i think u can get prity dam far w/ out them
<3 *~SaXyGuRL~*
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Author: Larry Criff
Date: 2005-06-02 18:03
Why is there such a big deal made in regards to spelling the word "saxaphone" or "saxophone"? What difference does it make!Anybody with any common sense will be able to interpret what you are trying to say.I have periodically viewed this web forum for about a year and I've noticed there is always some person that wants to critisize another about how they spell a word.You say Puh-tay-toe, I say Puh-tah-toe, however you say it, so what its still a vegetable................and you know this mannnnnn!!!
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Author: TorusTubarius
Date: 2005-06-03 04:58
Well, if you mean by having your own mind when it comes to music and having your own means of interpretation and musicality, that's good to a point. After all, nobody wants to be a clone of another player.
However I would say be careful about being so resistant to change in your musicianship. One characteristic of music I have found is that within a given consensus, there is a definite right way of playing something and a definite wrong way. Not everyone is right about everything all the time, so it's good to be willing to learn and change how you're playing in order to align yourself more with what is considered "correct".
As nice and accepting as a it may sound, music is a field where you can't just play a particular passage however you think is right and it automatically be right because you say so.
Let's say you have two people of comparable talent and years of experience playing the same etude on the same instrument. One is playing purely off of raw musical instinct and his own interpretation and the other is playing after having received some regular input from a more experienced player (i.e. what happens when you go take lessons). Although both may think what they're playing is right, I guarantee you the person who has received the input will sound more refined and musical to more people in the audience than the person who has not. Therefore, in actuality the person who has had the input is more correct in his music than the other.
So I guess what I'm saying is, given that that is true, why would you want to deliberately limit your growth by insisting that you're going to play your own way no matter what advice anyone else might have for you?
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Author: Larry Criff
Date: 2005-06-06 15:40
Congradulations! Torus! You're a classic example of what I was talking about.You see you wrote this long and drawn out passage about music theory making an effort to impress others in regards to your knowledge about music composition, etudes, and what not.............Torus, you missed the "point".Why! because you're not using your "common sense".Spelling,Torus...........that was the point being made........thats all!Don't "think" too deep into things, it makes life complicated.Keep it "short" and "sweet".It looks alot better on paper.Sorry,You failed to impress me with your music composition.
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Author: TorusTubarius
Date: 2005-06-06 20:13
Larry, you're kidding right? If you look back at Ven's post which started this thread, actually the point of this discussion was for everyone to name what kind of saxophone they had. Then we got sidetracked, which is ok as long as a good discussion comes out of it. I have 4 things to say to you:
1) You're not one to educate anyone on his spelling.
2) You clearly don't know what music theory or composition are if you think my posts in this thread included anything significant about either of those topics.
3) You will never be a good musician if you don't in fact think deeply about the music you're making.
4) "Common sense is just the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen" -Albert Einstein
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Author: Ryan
Date: 2005-06-07 03:58
Well said Torus, my major thing is how can you can improve on your instrument, and music in general, if you aren't willing to accept change, and the interpretation of other people? You must always be open to changing the way you play in many aspects, and you have to be open to other people's interpretations, especially the pros, because they of all people know what they are talking about. Torus also knows what he's talking about!
-Ryan
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Author: Sam
Date: 2005-06-25 19:06
Can anyone help. I stopped playing 20 years ago. I played in soul/R& M bands for about 10 years. Kids are grown and 6 grand kids later I am ready to play again. I used a metal mouth piece by Ducoff. It was, I think a # 34 or #43. Can anyone help me find this mouth piece. I sold my old tenor and the buyer lost it in a house fire. I tried to buy it back but to late. Any help please write to scgdad@aol.com
Thanks
Sam
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Author: mike miller
Date: 2005-06-28 16:48
hey im really trying to learn the ts over summer break and i would like to find some web sites to teach me can you hook me up? thanks,
mike miller
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Author: Tetley
Date: 2005-07-23 03:14
Whatever happened to sax types...(I am trying to avoid the whole spelling issue)
I have B&S and I believe it is about $2500 (Canadian)
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