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 Doubling on Flute?
Author: halfshellhero 
Date:   2013-08-16 18:26

I'm a clarinet player mainly, and I also play saxophone. My mother played the flute in school and gave me her old one (she bought it new in the 70s). I've been looking to play flute, so this is good. It says "Silvertone" on the body, but other than that, I have no idea who made it, if it's any good, etc. I think it's silver because it's pretty tarnished, and it's also closed hole, which I know is generally looked down upon. The Eb lever seems to be sluggish. So, is this a decent enough flute to begin learning on and I can get a better one when I get better at playing? Or is it just going to fight against me and hinder my playing?

Also a random question regarding playing. I can get a sound out of it just using the headjoint, and I can fairly easily get the second octave, but the first octave is really hard to get, and when I do get it it sound really bad. Tips? What am I doing wrong?

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 Re: Doubling on Flute?
Author: Orinoco 
Date:   2014-08-25 19:20

I'm also primarily a Clarinet / Sax player - just starting on flute as well!

I just did a quick google search and I think Silvertone flutes were made by Bundy (Selmer (USA) bought out Buescher in 1963 and used Buescher to make the Bundy instruments - mostly student level instruments)

Likely to be silver plated nickel

Closed hole vs Open hole is one of those debatable topics - but some say closed hole flutes promote a more natural hand position. My girlfriend has a lovely student Yamaha flute - closed hole, C-foot - great sound. I can get a good sound out of it! I have bought her a step up flute (Pearl 665, open hole, B-foot, solid silver headjoint) so I can use the Yamaha :)

If it is easy to blow a note, I'd just persist with it. On my plastic Nuvo flute, I can play G and upwards with moderate ease but have difficulty getting into the low notes in the first octave. A lot of that is cos I am still a crap player but I can get F# and down to the D on the Yamaha.

Other than the standard Get-a-Teacher, I won't give you any tips cos I am a beginner myself :) I'm just going with the practice practice practice - play long notes - play low notes - play high notes - play scales - play tunes ... the same sort of thing I first did with clarinet and sax

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 Re: Doubling on Flute?
Author: Jaysne 
Date:   2014-08-30 05:03

Closed hole is not looked down upon. In fact, many professionals prefer it to open hole. This is an on-going debate, and it all comes down to what you feel comfortable playing. There's nothing wrong with playing a closed-hole flute.

From what you've said, it sounds like your flute needs a trip to the flute doctor. A good tech will be able to fix the Eb key. The fact that you can get the second octave and not the first indicates there may be some leaks. On the other hand, the first octave is much more difficult to play than the second.

It's impossible to know how good a flute this is and if it's a good one to learn on until you take it to a repair tech. Any flute this old is bound to have some things that need attention. They will be able to fix it and then answer all your questions.

Post Edited (2014-08-30 05:04)

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 Re: Doubling on Flute?
Author: matt_lin18 
Date:   2015-05-25 05:55

Closed holes should not be looked down upon. Generally, closed hole flutes are present in beginner models while open hole are present in more intermediate and advanced models. This obviously gives them an unfair advantage because the more advanced models with the open hole would have better flutes. But if the professional level flutes had a closed hole system, you wouldn't even notice any difference in sound. But there are some special musical effects that can be achieved with open hole that can't be done with closed.

I also doubled on flute with my main instrument being oboe. I found that the first octave G was hard to get out at first. While A and above were pretty easy (up until the very high notes). After a while, I got used to it and can play all the way down to the very low C without a problem. Pretend it's a cold winter day and you're blowing on your hands to warm them up. You're blowing slow warm air while keeping your jaw and throat open.

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