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Author: oboecat
Date: 2007-04-02 18:29
I wonder if those of you with degrees in oboe would help me with a project I'm working on regarding the changing fashion in oboe programing. If you gave a degree recital, would you respond with the following information:
year of recital
degree (undergrad or grad)
institution, and
repertoire played
I'm interested in recitals from the last forty to fifty years, right up to the present, so dig through those memories (or old boxes of programs) and let us know what you played.
Thanks!
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Author: GMac
Date: 2007-04-02 20:31
Year of recital: 2007
Degree: Undergrad
Wilfrid Laurier University
Repertoire:
- Mozart Oboe Quartet
- Oskar Morawetz - Sonata for Oboe and Piano
- Bohuslav Martinu - Concerto for Oboe
Graham
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2007-04-02 23:28
Senior Recital
Bach g - minor Sonata
Poulenc - Trio
Intermission
Hindesmith - Sonata
Mozart - Quartet
Think hard before doing the g-minor sonata. It's a mean one.
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Author: oboecat
Date: 2007-04-03 00:29
This isn't for choosing my recital - I was graduated in '84. I'm compiling information, from this board and other sources, to show how "fashions" have changed the "standard" recital repertoire over the past few decades.
I'm assuming you sent me an undergrad program, since you call it a "senior recital." Can you give me your institution and the year the recital was given?
Thanks for you help.
Linda
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Author: greenlimeoboe
Date: 2007-04-03 03:06
This si quite interesting! I think this is a very clever idea! Would be so kind, oboecat, as to share your findings when you are through with your observations?
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2007-04-03 14:18
Is a degree recital something you have to do through before they'll give you your music degree? Is it in public, or in private? The small liberal arts college here has occasional recitals in their performance hall; are some of them for people in the last throes of earning their music degree, or are those folks sequestered in private somewhere?
And, lastly, can you flunk your recital? Or is it just to prove a basic mastery?
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Author: Bobo
Date: 2007-04-03 14:47
cj,
which bach g minor? they're both great, but i suspect you mean the loooong one. great rendition of that on vogel's bach's circle album.
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2007-04-03 15:25
Yup... the loooooooooooooooooong one. That kills your endurance and leaves you with fumes to burn on for the rest of your recital.
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Author: Bobo
Date: 2007-04-03 15:54
wow, your chops must have been chopped liver by the end of the recital!
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Author: greenlimeoboe
Date: 2007-04-03 16:36
In the bach g-minor sonata, do you have to circular breath in the last movement? I have a recording of Ray Still playing, and I don't ever hear him breathing. I also have the sheet music to it and I dont see anywhere to breath!
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Author: d-oboe
Date: 2007-04-03 16:45
In undergraduate, the "degree recital" is part of the grade given for 4th year (or graduating year) practical instruction. It is the culmination of the study throughout the year.
As with any other degree requirement (a theory course, a certain number of electives, etc.) it must be completed in order for the degree to be obtained. Certain course requirements are waived under special circumstances. However, performance exams are never waived (obviously).
It is possible to fail an exam - but only if your mind, body, and determination are not in the right place. Almost all students who aim to do well, practice, and prepare for their performance exams, achieve passing grades.
Of course, the higher level the exam, the more is expected.
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Author: Dutchy
Date: 2007-04-03 17:05
Ah, thank you. Next question (because I'm curious): do they allow you to pick your own piece? Do they give you a short list to pick from, or can you play pretty much anything you want, as long as it's technically up to snuff? In other words, is Oboecat's survey going to show how fashions for certain pieces change in the students' minds as they choose their own pieces, or in the various faculties' minds, as they set up the lists?
The closest parallel I've ever experienced would be the high school talent show, where some years it's, like, all solos from "Cats", and the next year it's all "Rent", etc. ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
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Author: oboecat
Date: 2007-04-03 17:49
At most institutions you are allowed to choose your own works, but with your teacher's approval - thus what institution you attend may have more of an effect than what year you attended. There are, of course, other considerations. I was the first to perform Britten's Temporal Variations at my conservatory because it was published posthumously and hadn't been "discovered" yet.
Some institutions have lists from which students must choose, but most of those end with "or equivalent selection" so I suspect they are really the same - student choice with teacher approval. Also, most places have a length requirement - 55 minutes at conservatories and most major music schools, but I have seen requirements of 35 minutes listed.
Second request: I'm getting many more replies from recent grads than older ones. Could some of you out there ask your teachers what they played on their recitals (grad and undergrad) and either hand out my email address or forward that information on to me? I'd really like to go back a few decades, as programs seem to have shifted dramatically between the early '80s and now.
Thanks,
Linda
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Author: oboeblank
Date: 2007-04-03 17:57
You are free to choose your recital program, although there are usually some perameters; you should try to have a work represented from each period and it should be at least fifty to sixty minutes of music.
You often get carried away-so much music so little time, that you program insane and monstrous works. The tentative program for my fourth year recital was Bach 1030b-the giant sonata, Koechlin Sonata, Pasculli Verdi Paraphrase and something else insanely long. Then you wake up and cooler heads prevail and you do something else.
I acutally miss the whole recital process, too bad the recital seems to be going the way of the dodo.
Post Edited (2007-04-03 21:53)
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Author: oboecat
Date: 2007-04-03 20:50
So, Oboeblank, what did you actually end up performing (and where and when?)
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Author: oboeidaho
Date: 2007-04-03 21:45
At my university for an undergrad degree you had to do at least two recitals - usually called the junior recital (35 min) and senior recital (55 min, or something like that). If you were a performance major. Ed majors could do just one, if I recall, and the shorter length. I believe they could also do a joint recital to fulfill requirements - which is great for your chops as you usually alternate pieces, and maybe do a collaboration at the end. Depending on your focus, you might have to participate in a chamber recital (like ww5) as well.
For masters program I had to do a recital of some kind each year but the final recital had to be a solo recital of 70 minutes. First year I did a joint recital with a flutist and we both had so much stuff it was almost 2.5 hours - but fun. I will have to dig out the programs as it has been a long time (probably the reason you are getting younger replies- us old folk can't remember offhand that far back!) but I know I did the Vaughn Williams for that masters recital, and other stuff.
RE programming - "fun" pieces were allowed but the required minutes had to be made up of traditional oboe literature (as defined by the instructor). We didn't have a specific list I was aware of, and I usually had a chamber piece or Bach aria as well as solo lit (except for the last one). Of course this would be different at different schools - I was at major state universities for both degrees.
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