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 any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: msallen 
Date:   2017-08-26 17:17
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We recently purchased this wooden Oboe at an estate sale. It is one of the old Cabart models pre 74. It is wooden and not warped or cracked. We are having it serviced right now but wondering more about the instrument. Is there a way to find out more about where it was made and the possible value of the instrument? and help would be appreciated.

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Michael Allen

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-08-26 19:23

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=10&i=29201&t=29201

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: msallen 
Date:   2017-08-26 19:40

right, Chris, thank you. we would love to have more information than your last response. How do we find out more than what you said last time? thanks

Michael Allen

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: tgenns 
Date:   2017-08-26 20:56

Peter Hurd's site has some info on the Cabart oboe -- http://oboes.us/ . As for value, you can keep your eye on the used instruments for sale on the woodwind dealers websites, such as Midwest Musical Importers, Charles Double Reeds, RDG, Innoledy, and others (in America)-- you occasionally see them for sale there. Also, if you want to sell it now, you can work with one of them to sell it on consignment for a fair market value.

Hope this helps.

Tom

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-08-26 22:04

To be honest with these Italian oboes, there's not much info other than they were made in the thousands for anyone that wanted them. I've seen them stencilled with numerous names and in basic thumbplate system to intermediate conservatoire system.

Orsi don't list oboes on their site and the most recent ones I worked on were poorly made with the key barrels all reamed oversize and therefore loose on the rod screws.

The various names they go by are Buisson, Selmer Sterling/Console, Louis LM5, Howarth B/C, Grassi, Orsi, La Margue, Evette, ...

The Artia oboes made by Amati are Czechoslovakian copies of these and the top joint bore is oversize, so they're unstable from low E downwards. The Prestini/Orsi ones should be fine as the bores are fairly narrow.

The only info I can find on Orsi oboes is this:

http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/b20567_9ddcf4fb0914466bbf9818492bac04a0.pdf

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: heckelmaniac 
Date:   2017-08-27 11:29

The case is of the type that would have been supplied with a Cabart oboe.
I surmise this oboe may have been made by Malerne just at the time Cabart was being bought out by Loree in 1974. My guess is that Cabart stopped production during the transition, and filled existing orders with Malerne stencil instruments.
I have had (so far) two "Cabart" English horns from this time that were obviously made by Malerne. Many of the Malerne (and the myriad of Malerne stencil English horns- "Linton," "Larilee," "A. Robert," and many other trade names) play beautifully. However, in general, the same can not be said of the Malerne oboes...

Oboes.us

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 Re: any way to find out information on this Oboe?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-08-27 13:55

It's not a Malerne, it's Italian.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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