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 Schiller Oboe
Author: hautboy 
Date:   2017-05-03 18:40

Is anyone familiar with the Schiller Elite VI Conservatory Professional Oboe? I'm just curious because of the price and it's a German made/style oboe. Any recordings of it? Not sure how American scrape reeds would respond with it or if American style of playing works with this particular instrument.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-05-03 19:54

Chinese - avoid like the plague.

Chris.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-05-03 19:57
Attachment:  conservatory_oboe_elitecon4.jpg (90k)

http://www.schillerinstruments.com/oboes/elite-conservatory-oboe

"The Schiller Elite Conservatory Oboe is German Engineered and uses the finest components."

Really?

Chris.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2017-05-03 20:18

HAHAHA! How can you take them seriously if they can't even be arsed to assemble them correctly for their website?

http://www.schillerinstruments.com/oboes/elite-vi-professional-english-oboe

Chris.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: Barry Vincent 
Date:   2017-05-04 01:51

That last photo you posted Chris shows that lovely Vienna type bulb at the reed end. Very Oboeish. It's a design feature I think is a lovely feature. Pity about it being Chinese.

Skyfacer

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: borris 
Date:   2017-05-04 07:12

The "English Oboe"... What do they mean? And yes, this is funny.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: matt_lin18 
Date:   2017-05-04 10:26

I had the chance to try a few of these at a band convention. A general band store had a few of the Schiller oboes out for display, it was a full conservatory grenadilla model.

It was one of the few booths that carried an oboe, so I picked it up and played it. Honestly - not bad. I was pleasantly surprised. It played rather well, a nice feeling of resistance that's comparable to a Loree. The oboe was in tune and responsive, low notes speaked easily and it felt very stable. It was about $1800 I believe.

Of course, the first thing that came into mind is the long term mechanical stability of the instrument. The keywork looked okay, it fitted nice and tight. It was comfortable too, only complaint is that the left F key is a bit short and I missed it on several occasions while playing it.

There were some other oboes on display too, a grenadilla Yamaha 441 and some Fox student oboes. The Yamaha was much too resistant for me and not flexible enough. One of the Foxes was probably one of the worst oboes I have ever played - it was probably a dud as I hear a lot of good things about the Fox oboes. Very very stuffy, sound was small and had no projection at all.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: oboist2 
Date:   2017-05-05 03:22

Generally you do get what you have paid for, and perhaps you had better stick with a well known maker, unless you have money you can play around with. I have tried a few different Chinese made oboes. A few, Like the AW ( Armstrong-Werth) ones are very good, but they are the exception rather than the rule. I have heard mixed reports of the Schiller, but I think they are trying hard. There will always be cheap oboes for the market that are very hard to play and with shoddy workmanship, and this is no matter where the country of origin. My advice see if you can get your hands on one to trial, and have a good repairer assess its worth to you.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2017-05-14 03:12

German engineered (meaning copied from some German-engineered oboe) and German made are quite different. In brass instruments, there actually are a couple of vendors whose China-produced products I would buy, because they stand behind them. Quality is not up to German standards but you get 2/3 of the instrument for 1/3 of the price, which fits quite well with a lot of people.

The problem with Schiller in particular, no matter the quality (good bad or indifferent) is that it cannot be returned, only exchanged. Once you spend your money there, it is gone for good. As opposed to the two brass instrument vendors I respect who sell their own version of Chinese brasses.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: SarahC 
Date:   2017-05-14 13:33

Do you think the AW ones would have longevity?

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: oboist2 
Date:   2017-05-15 06:47

Yes I do believe that they would Sarah. I met John Armstrong at the last Double Reed convention and was impressed with his knowledge and commitment. I have tried a few out at the previous Music Mayhem, and was impressed with the high standard of the instruments I tried, as were some of the other teachers and professionals I spoke to after trying these.

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: SarahC 
Date:   2017-05-20 22:25

Thanks oboist.

Well I have emailed the represntative. But I am hoping to visit on Thursday night this week and try a few.

If it is free blowing, in tune, and easy to hit each note in the range, and has a sound better than the oboe I am practising on, then it will be a guaranteed sale!

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: OhBoy 
Date:   2017-08-20 15:55

Oh, you seem so pleased with Schiller! Maybe, the oboe you tested was the one I ebayed 5 days ago! Was it Schiller Elite VI with 2 changeable bells? Is it really as good as you describe? Can you tell some more impressions of it? Do these two bells really make different hues of sound? Actually, I have already paypaled it and it's on its way to my far away country, but still I'd like to know if I have invested well. Thank you!

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: Barry Vincent 
Date:   2017-08-21 01:50

What amuses me with these Chinese Oboes and that they constantly describe the instrument as being a C Oboe. Well, yeah. so ---------- ?

Skyfacer

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 Re: Schiller Oboe
Author: wrowand 
Date:   2017-08-21 17:29

That is funny! Also, if you hover over the photo with your mouse you'll see that the name of the image is "bassoon-1.jpg".

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