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Author: Lux
Date: 2016-11-26 07:59
I have seen in a couple of adjustment manuals that the left hand G#/Ab key is sometimes referred to as the 'alternate' G#/Ab key and the right hand G#/Ab key is simply referred to as the "G#/Ab key". This seems backward to me as on most other woodwinds there is a left-hand G#/Ab key used by the pinky finger. Also, I was taught the left-hand G#/Ab fingering way before the right-hand fingering.
Thoughts?
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2016-11-27 02:39
On my Oboe I have 3 Ab/G# keys. The one on the left which is used nearly all the time and the two right hand ones. I've never been able to figure out why there are two right hand ones.
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Author: oboi
Date: 2016-11-27 10:06
You mean the G#-A trill facilitator key as the second RH key? I've always known that the LH is the standard G#/Ab key, the RH one being the alternate. The mini key that goes around the RH key is the trill key. I've never heard of them the other way around.
LH is my default, RH when LH5 is preoccupied, and the trill one only when doing the trill. I rarely use the trill key, but I use RH G#/Ab quite a bit even when I don't even have to. Beginner oboes often don't have any of the RH keys and only some pro oboes have the trill key (my horn doesn't).
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2016-11-27 15:05
The RH G#-A trill key is non functional on my Oboe as I have a dual system (Thumb Plate-Conservatorie) which seems to cause this. Perhaps Chris Peryagh could clear this up for us.
Skyfacer
Post Edited (2016-11-27 15:06)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-11-27 16:47
You should still be able to use the RH side G# key on a dual system as you can on a regular conservatoire system for a G-Ab trill (or for an alternative G#/Ab) so long as you lift off RH1 from its fingerplate immediately before you use the side G# key as the LH1 fingerplate holds the G# pad cup closed. So you can't use this key at all while RH1 remains held down.
If there are two side keys, then the upper (overlapping) side key is often there for the following:
- On pure thumbplates (if fitted) it's a side G# key (for a G-Ab trill),
- On ring key conservatoire systems it's a side Ab-Bb trill key (play G#/Ab and trill the upper side key),
- On full Gillet conservatoire systems its a G#-A trill key (hold it down and trill LH3).
There are some rare 'English System' full Gillet-style oboes that are pure thumbplate system (no link from RH1 to the top joint) but look like a full Gillet conservatoire system with all the perforated fingerplates and Gillet conservatoire mechanisms (RH3 split D#-E trill, etc). Both Howarth and Loree built them to order and the upper side key on these is either a G#-A trill key (as on regular Gillet conservatoires) or duplicates the thumbplate action to trill the Bb and C keys as the side key does on a pure thumbplate system oboe.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2016-11-28 02:24)
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2016-11-28 01:07
Hi Chris. Thank you for responding to my query. Much appreciated. I'll check that all out.
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