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 Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: OboeChic 
Date:   2016-04-05 19:09

Considering my next instrument, either a Yamaha 441 or Fox 330... I really do not want wood, looking at the resin models. Is this like a Canon vs. Nikon thing or are there significant differences in play? Thanks!

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: WoodwindOz 
Date:   2016-04-06 05:53

It is a bit of personal preference, and I would certainly try out the two side by side if you can. I have done this a few times now, and I would say the Fox feels more 'oboe-y' than the Yamaha. To me, the Yamaha doesn't have as refined a sound and the mechanism isn't quite the same as a Fox.

I think we've had a similar conversation on here before and many other players tend to agree, but there will always be diehard Yamaha fans around!

Rachel

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-04-06 18:31

Out of the two, the Fox is a much higher spec instrument compared to the Yamaha, so that alone would sway it for me to go with the Fox.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: Oboehotty 
Date:   2016-04-07 05:09

I have several,students with the Yamaha and several with the Fox. On all of the Yamahas, there is almost a "dull" and lack of resonance Sound....I prefer the Fox.

Shawn

Professor of Oboe - Youngstown State University
Howland Local Schools - MS Dir. Of Bands/HS Asst. Dir (Marching, Symphonic)

Post Edited (2016-04-07 05:11)

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: OboeChic 
Date:   2016-04-09 00:40

Hey, thanks so much for the replies! Shawn, I'll be up at your place in June for Camp!

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: wkleung 
Date:   2016-04-10 12:31

Are you limited to these two brands only? Neither is a top oboe maker ...

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-04-10 15:09

Anyone without a restricted budget can order a pro or prestige level oboe with either in wood with a sleeved top joint bore, an oboe with a plastic top joint (with wooden lower joint and bell) or an entirely plastic oboe from any of the top makers.

But as far as intermediate oboes go which I presume OboeChic has their sights set on at this point in time and narrowed it down to just these two oboes to choose from (the Yamaha 400 series is available with a resin lined top joint), the Fox is by far the better instrument of the two when it comes to specifications as it's only short of the RH3 D#/E split fingerplate. Even the Fox 333 (the model below the 330) has the side G#/A trill key which the Yamaha and other lower intermediate oboes won't have.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: OboeChic 
Date:   2016-04-21 18:51

Thanks for the replies... Yamaha at this point is no longer an option for me. I've pretty much narrowed it down to either a Fox 330 or a Howarth S40C - am leaning toward the S40C though I have this worry about cracks. I know it happens to like everyone, but I don't want to drop 4K and have it crack! sigh...

I also was introduced to Cabart at an Oboe Day event we had recently - omg beautiful instrument, but just a bit rich for me now... Interestingly as an aside, the more people I circulate with, I've discovered an inherent, pardon the expression, "Loree snobbery" out there... I guess kind of like my preference for Nikon... ;-)

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 Re: Fox vs. Yamaha
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-04-21 21:39

The S40c is also available with a partially sleeved top joint to reduce the risk of cracks at the most vulnerable part of the instrument as an option:

http://www.howarth.uk.com/pic.aspx?pid=35121

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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