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Author: ckoboe777
Date: 2015-12-18 07:31
Hello oboe world,
Recently, I've been trying out different oboe staples, and I've tried several brands out. Right now, I'm mainly using Loree AK 47mm brass staples, but I would also like to try Stevens staples, especially the thin wall ones. As many of you oboe players may know, the Stevens oboe staple business is now out of business, so the original staples are not for sale any more. I would really like to know a good place where I could get some of these Stevens replicas. I think RDG and Midwest Imports have some, but I have never tried staples made by these stores, so I'm a bit cautious.
If there are any other staples you guys could recommend, please tell me.
Additional info:
I play a Loree AK Royal and I use the Mack-Pfeiffer shape. I'm playing principal in a youth orchestra.
Thanks,
ckoboe
Post Edited (2015-12-18 07:36)
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Author: Oboehotty
Date: 2015-12-20 17:20
Ckoboe,
RDG woodwinds is making a Stevens copy staple that I have had some pretty good success with. I also know that double or nothing reeds innCincinnati is doing a prototype and I believe chudnow is also working on one (rumors maybe?). I know many people and former students who are having success with the chiarugi tubes. However, I'm not a huge Stevens staple fan and only used the originals for a while several ears back.
I personally ALWAYS find success and great reeds with Sierra staples from chudnow. I also have had success with Pisonimstapkes, although if you are a beginning reed maker I would,not recommend them as the metal is very thick and difficult to get a Reed to seal perfectly. Nielsen staples have also worked in the past. I have never had luck with Loree AK staples in the 25 years I have been making reeds, but that is my personal experience. Each person is different.
Shawn
Professor of Oboe - Youngstown State University
Howland Local Schools - MS Dir. Of Bands/HS Asst. Dir (Marching, Symphonic)
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Author: ckoboe777
Date: 2015-12-21 00:39
Hmm...
The low price of the RDG Stevens staples slightly deterred me when I first saw it. It was way cheaper than a lot of other staples on the site, and it made me a bit skeptical about the quality of the staple. In addition, my teacher bought staples from Forrests that were supposed to be replicas of Stevens #2's, but they weren't that good in terms of quality/ consistency. As a result, I have always been cautious about buying store made staples.
A few questions:
Are the Stevens RDG staples (that you referred to) silver?
Do Pisoni staples fit on loree mandrels? I know that the RDG mandrel fits both Pisoni staples and ak staples (which fit on my loree mandrel), so shouldn't my loree mandrel work for Pisonis?
Do chiarugi staples fit on loree mandrels? I've heard that the loree regular staples are very similar to some chiarugis.
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Author: Oboehotty
Date: 2015-12-21 06:24
Not sure...I don't use a Loree mandrel. I know several people using the Stevens copies. Presumably the reason they are cheaper than the others is due to the synthetic cork. I think they come in both brass and silver.
Over the years I have learned that just because a staple is more expensive does not mean it is better than another. I have also learned that the "name" in the staple don't necessarily mean you are getting quality.
Good luck with your search.
S
Professor of Oboe - Youngstown State University
Howland Local Schools - MS Dir. Of Bands/HS Asst. Dir (Marching, Symphonic)
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Author: ckoboe777
Date: 2015-12-21 08:20
Thanks for replying!
I just ordered a few RDG Stevens staples. BTW, what was your tying length for the Stevens? Right now, I'm tying super long at 73.5-74mm on Loree ak staples.
ckoboe
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Author: Oboehotty
Date: 2015-12-22 06:48
Depends on your shape. Your tie length should be a reflection of your shape and how much cane is at the belly.mi use a Joshua+2 shape and tie 72-72.5. Occasionally I use a Joshua +4 and tie closer to 73. If using a -1 I tie closer to 72.
Shawn
Professor of Oboe - Youngstown State University
Howland Local Schools - MS Dir. Of Bands/HS Asst. Dir (Marching, Symphonic)
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